ok so explain other causes

You want to be banned?

do u want to listen to reason?

You have no reasoning

Just beliefs

I think it sounds more like reasoning than beliefs, but thats just me. it seems like koro is the only one trying to have a discussion and youre just constantly asking them to 'prove it' rather than giving your input. just something i noticed

ok so GTR hasn't been disproven. it was ammended by stephen hawking more recently as GTR was designed for a static universe. this is a theory that is over a century old and hasn't been disproven. every experiment that was designed to flaw it failed. gravitational lensing while yeah observation is not causation what else could be a factor here? it is precisely calculated with GTR suggesting that it is the factor of curved space-time. the equivalence principle also proves this (give it a quick search as it's a bit of a pain to explain). ether was a concept that would've flawed GTR but lo and behold it didn't so now provide me with anything that disproves GTR. it has withstood a century of people attempting to disprove it with everything they could think of and and yet it didn't manage to so if you can good luck

@waitress how do you disprove something thats not been proven? (The warping of space-time)

No scientist has ever proven gravitational lensing and every scientist admits it cant be observed on earth. Koro made the claim it can be. Asking for proof is normal in that instance. Its a bold claim.

He also claims that c02 levels above. 04 percent gave him cognitive impairment. Saying he performed an experiment. Asking for proof of this is also normal as his claim is bold and goes against measured known limitations of co2 for humans.

@Citizen Z I am contrary to your position, but I agree with you that @Koro is not providing either good arguments or solid evidence.

I just think there should be more talking or more research rather than a 'prove it' after everything, if that makes sense.

So as not to appear hypocritical, I'll provide this for a possible piece of evidence for general relativity. https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=137628

It's recent, and it was performed on earth without any reliance on the presupposition of earth's roundness.

.gov great

I can try and find the actual findings report, but still.

Ligo is a big sagnac experiment

If that's so, wouldn't that imply that at least part of the mile long laser tube is moving?

For how complicated ligo is said to be, i dont think it can be trusted nor will it ever be verifiable

Well, what is your standard of evidence then?

LIEgo

https://youtu.be/9qsDqXw6W3Q

Good video

There is a better one that goes deep into the technical stuff

Its not something that is verifiable

Think about it

If gravity was proven. Why spend that much money on ligo

Sagnac tubes move?

https://youtu.be/SWmlimH7laY

The tubes dont move

Thats actually a simple question. You have eyes and can see, yes? Does having eyes mean you understand all of the forces and factors that go into producing sight *electromagnetic, physiological etc..). The answer is no of course not. The same follows for gravity and in fact the basis of science. We observe something, but we dont understand why.

Thats why they have two ligos

No, my point is that if LIGO were indeed a Sagnac experiment, the entire aparatus would be moving, that's the point of the experiment.

Which I would imagine to be a problematic position.

any1 here think the aliens built the pyramids?

No, thats silly

Check this video out
https://youtu.be/sCuKuUgNfjA
Liego

Think how complicated that thing is

why is it a silly conspiracy despato

Well once you come to the conclusion all space images are fake FE is a no-brainer. They literally have zero evidence related to the earth itself that we can detect DOWN HERE

LIGO can measure 1/1000th of a proton radius but we can't measure the earth causes it's too big..... GTFO

@RangerX7 i think ancient people had different technolgy than us

No aliens

do flat earthers believe in space and planets and stuff