Message from @jeremy
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the excuse is refraction light bending whatever
once again why its happenning isnt important
we know we see more than we should
noone is doubting we see more than we should
I mean you still have to explain *why* we see more than we should. Especially since on certain days we see *less* than we should. We know refraction is a thing because we can test it on smaller scales too, so it's less of an excuse and more the best explanation for the phenomenon
globe and flat people both know we see more than the globe accounts for
i can tell ur in favor of obethe gl
in favor of the globe
Well I mean even if you ignore refraction you have 444 meters hidden
so would u agree what we are seeing is an illusion
Yes, refraction is, for all intents and purposes, an illusion
lol
we know thier is a lot of illusions taking place when we look out over a body of water would u say
Depends on the kind of illusion
nevermind
forget it
This is where the *why something happens* part is important lol
i understand that
im just saying their is a lot of illusions taking place when we look out over a body of water
Yeet
Yes
whats yeet lol
oh ok
so lots of illusions taking place out there
it's the furry way of saying yes
but the boats going over the curve is real
why that one thing
thats the only thing thats real out there everything else is an illusion
the cherry picked observations
they cherry picked
I mean you didn't say *everything else* is an illusion, you yourself said *lots of things* are an illusion
It's unclear whether or not boats are passing over the horizon or not.
You have two positions here:
i) Boats are in fact passing over the horizon.
ii) Boats passing over the horizon is an illusion, therefore the illusion needs an explanation, or an alternative solution.
Now, the way we test such things is by constructing both a hypothesis, and a null-hypothesis
What that basically means is that we analyze what we would *expect* to see if one of the positions were true
And the counter-position would then become the null-hypothesis
the explenation is they appear to be going over the horizon but its perspective angular resolution and refraction that appear to be making the boat look like its going over the curve
is their an experiment for why we see chicago from michigan ?
What kind of experiment would you look for?
i would also throw the inverse square law into the perspective refraction and angular resolution as to why the boats appear to be going over a curve