Message from @「阿波根うみこ」

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2019-05-06 20:33:35 UTC  

ok

2019-05-06 20:33:56 UTC  

That's why we don't use Newtonian physics because they don't sufficiently explain gravity in its fullest form

2019-05-06 20:34:25 UTC  

where did ur insane definition of gravity come from ?

2019-05-06 20:34:49 UTC  

Particle physics and quantum mechanics.

2019-05-06 20:35:21 UTC  

thats like theoretical science ?

2019-05-06 20:35:36 UTC  

the hadron collider is particle physics ?

2019-05-06 20:35:38 UTC  

Not all of it

2019-05-06 20:35:43 UTC  

No, why would you think it's theoretical?

2019-05-06 20:35:58 UTC  

quantam mechanics ? i thought that was theoretical

2019-05-06 20:36:03 UTC  

It isn't.

2019-05-06 20:36:08 UTC  

The calculations are.

2019-05-06 20:36:16 UTC  

so some of it is theory ?

2019-05-06 20:36:33 UTC  

But the predictions of the calculations are put very much into practice.

2019-05-06 20:36:39 UTC  

Theory backed up with proof and experimentation that show it to be true

2019-05-06 20:36:47 UTC  

but not facts?

2019-05-06 20:36:52 UTC  

jsut theory ?

2019-05-06 20:37:05 UTC  

Theory that is shown to be true, ergo it is fact

2019-05-06 20:37:10 UTC  

Science doesn't deal with facts per se

2019-05-06 20:37:14 UTC  

so none of it is theory ?

2019-05-06 20:37:18 UTC  

gotta run later guys

2019-05-06 20:37:18 UTC  

Or do you want to keep sliding them goalposts

2019-05-06 20:37:28 UTC  

Oh, convenient that

2019-05-06 20:37:34 UTC  

Science constructs predictions based on calculations, observations and experiments

2019-05-06 20:43:09 UTC  

To give you a concrete example, according to radioactive decay theory, this Sr-90 probe has a β- decay. This means that after a certain amount of time, a neutron will decay into a proton by emitting an Electron, conserving electrical share, and an election anti-neutrino, conserving the lepton number. *In theory* if you put Sr-90 into a magnetic field, the electrons emitted should follow the magnetic lines into the desired direction. Depending on the strength of the magnetic field you can also determine the energy of the electrons.

2019-05-06 20:44:07 UTC  

Now the point of all this is because this is *literally* how we detect beta decay using certain Geiger counters. So clearly, the theory works both on paper and in experiments

2019-05-06 21:01:58 UTC  

@Bannebie you're able to defend gravity?

2019-05-06 21:03:06 UTC  

Yes, it would seem so

2019-05-06 21:03:15 UTC  

Pfft, let's see

2019-05-06 21:03:30 UTC  

Gravity is unproven and self-contradicting

2019-05-06 21:03:41 UTC  

You can't defend something rooted in nonsense

2019-05-06 21:03:42 UTC  

How so

2019-05-06 21:03:49 UTC  

Elaborate, please

2019-05-06 21:04:00 UTC  

Can you give me one concrete proof of gravity?

2019-05-06 21:04:06 UTC  

Of mass attracting mass

2019-05-06 21:04:48 UTC  

No, because there is none

2019-05-06 21:04:52 UTC  

Gravity is unproven

2019-05-06 21:05:37 UTC  

Gravity is the accepted scientific norm, therefore it is up to you to provide the burden of proof that it is not correct

2019-05-06 21:07:06 UTC  

You claim that mass attracts mass

2019-05-06 21:07:12 UTC  

It's your burden to prove that

2019-05-06 21:07:25 UTC  

Appeal to authority fallacy doesn't work here

2019-05-06 21:07:43 UTC  

Cavendish experiment set the framework for mass-mass attraction, ever since then countless more experiments have been done. And as I said before, any particle that has a nonzero Mass-momentum-stress tensor is affected by gravity. You can show the existence of gravitational wells using the bending of light, for example.