Message from @Thorne

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2020-05-05 02:03:01 UTC  

Everyone should establish SOPs with their local group.

2020-05-05 02:03:18 UTC  

I would suggest everyone have QuikClot in their IFAK regardless of whether they use it or not.

2020-05-05 02:03:30 UTC  

From what I hear, chemical burns is no longer a problem.

2020-05-05 02:03:38 UTC  

As for trauma shears:

2020-05-05 02:03:53 UTC  

There is no need to buy a set of Leatherman Raptors.

2020-05-05 02:04:07 UTC  

Buy 3 or 4 pairs of the cheap stainless ones.

2020-05-05 02:04:16 UTC  

They do the job, that’s all that should matter.

2020-05-05 02:06:23 UTC  

I've never used a ratcheting tq yet. I'm not a fan of the constricting band ones that came out not terribly long ago. My understanding is they were proven ineffective anyway.

2020-05-05 02:07:20 UTC  

Those are RATS TQs.

2020-05-05 02:07:33 UTC  

And yes, they were proven ineffective and possibly dangerous.

2020-05-05 02:07:43 UTC  

They can cause nerve damage.

2020-05-05 02:07:53 UTC  

The standards are the SOFT-T

2020-05-05 02:07:55 UTC  

And the CAT

2020-05-05 02:08:10 UTC  

Only CoTCCC recommended tourniquets should be used.

2020-05-05 02:08:22 UTC  

The RATS is not CoTCCC recommended.

2020-05-05 02:09:10 UTC  

Shouldn't really even be sold imo but that's just me.

2020-05-05 02:09:19 UTC  

I agree.

2020-05-05 02:09:29 UTC  

Considering the possibility of nerve damage, it’s sad.

2020-05-05 02:09:50 UTC  

The whole nerve damage is kinda offset by the fact they don't work

2020-05-05 02:10:10 UTC  

If it doesn't accomplish the goal AND makes it worse then we'll.

2020-05-05 02:10:13 UTC  

Well.

2020-05-05 02:10:18 UTC  

Kinda rip.

2020-05-05 02:10:35 UTC  

Anyways. Was just curious.

2020-05-05 02:11:53 UTC  

Anytime. If you want to PM me and talk or ask questions feel free.

2020-05-05 02:12:44 UTC  

Just wanted to know who I was dealing with.

2020-05-05 02:13:53 UTC  

Well, now you do.

2020-05-05 02:51:07 UTC  

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ what does Tccc test for? I noticed the updated their list last year. Do they get a bunch of random ones or do they need to be submitted for testing like with DOJ armor.

2020-05-05 02:51:38 UTC  

It’s not a test.

2020-05-05 02:51:58 UTC  

They try a bunch out in the field if they think it shows promise.

2020-05-05 02:52:23 UTC  

If it holds up and does not have any negative effects on casualties for the most part, it’s a pass.

2020-05-05 02:53:27 UTC  

Do they have a list of failures?

2020-05-05 02:55:03 UTC  

I’m not sure.

2020-05-05 03:04:50 UTC  

The CoTCCC board members are active in the community, I can’t remember their names off the top of my head but you could literally just ask them

2020-05-05 03:11:37 UTC  

True.

2020-05-05 07:40:26 UTC  

Hi, I'm an RN and am looking into getting extra classes, how do you all feel about the American red Cross first aid for severe bleeding. It's on sale and doesn't seem like a huge time commitment so I can do it online.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704483905885175910/707134600387887114/Screenshot_20200505-033945.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704483905885175910/707134600660385792/Screenshot_20200505-033939.png

2020-05-05 10:35:42 UTC  

i read somewhere that modern superglue was developed by the US military to seal wounds in Vietnam, im pretty intermediate with first aid so i would consider myself proficient, but no expert. would modern superglue be a practical thing in a first aid kit for sealing wounds or would it be something that by today's standards would be considered a last resort? (i mean cyanoacrylate)

2020-05-05 13:16:39 UTC  

@Young Spaghetti it would be decent information.

2020-05-05 13:18:00 UTC  

@Potion Seller theres still a medical glue used to seal some stuff, seen it used a few times. as for if its super glue I dont know and it wouldn't really be a replacement for stitches if you're asking.

2020-05-05 13:19:43 UTC  

@Young Spaghetti I would look for a stop the bleed class of some sort to at least get some hands on. I dont know what area you're in but if you happen to be nearish to a medical college sometimes they have a class for relatively cheap to learn advanced skills. For example, for $150 theres a college near me that lets you practice surgical crics on cadavers.

2020-05-05 14:23:39 UTC  

Community Colleges also tend to have classes.

2020-05-06 03:44:09 UTC  

Howdy y'all