Message from @Thorne
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Quick clot. Is it really suggested that people who may not be trained to use that. Its my understanding that both using it in the wrong places is counterproductive and using it can cause chemical burns for added problems later.
Secondly. Again just from my own experience. Trauma sheers no matter how expensive are all shit or get left everywhere. Probably better to buy in bulk and keep one or two on you rather than a "nice" set.
Thirdly, assuming we use the windlass only tqs?
Lastly. For...... combat.... situations. Has there been thought about establishing or organizing generic SOPs
I have seen ratcheting TQs but they are more in terms of cost.
Everyone should establish SOPs with their local group.
I would suggest everyone have QuikClot in their IFAK regardless of whether they use it or not.
From what I hear, chemical burns is no longer a problem.
As for trauma shears:
There is no need to buy a set of Leatherman Raptors.
Buy 3 or 4 pairs of the cheap stainless ones.
They do the job, that’s all that should matter.
I've never used a ratcheting tq yet. I'm not a fan of the constricting band ones that came out not terribly long ago. My understanding is they were proven ineffective anyway.
Those are RATS TQs.
And yes, they were proven ineffective and possibly dangerous.
They can cause nerve damage.
The standards are the SOFT-T
And the CAT
Only CoTCCC recommended tourniquets should be used.
The RATS is not CoTCCC recommended.
I agree.
Considering the possibility of nerve damage, it’s sad.
The whole nerve damage is kinda offset by the fact they don't work
If it doesn't accomplish the goal AND makes it worse then we'll.
Well.
Kinda rip.
Anyways. Was just curious.
Anytime. If you want to PM me and talk or ask questions feel free.
Just wanted to know who I was dealing with.
Well, now you do.
@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ what does Tccc test for? I noticed the updated their list last year. Do they get a bunch of random ones or do they need to be submitted for testing like with DOJ armor.
It’s not a test.
They try a bunch out in the field if they think it shows promise.
If it holds up and does not have any negative effects on casualties for the most part, it’s a pass.
Do they have a list of failures?
I’m not sure.
The CoTCCC board members are active in the community, I can’t remember their names off the top of my head but you could literally just ask them
True.
Hi, I'm an RN and am looking into getting extra classes, how do you all feel about the American red Cross first aid for severe bleeding. It's on sale and doesn't seem like a huge time commitment so I can do it online.
i read somewhere that modern superglue was developed by the US military to seal wounds in Vietnam, im pretty intermediate with first aid so i would consider myself proficient, but no expert. would modern superglue be a practical thing in a first aid kit for sealing wounds or would it be something that by today's standards would be considered a last resort? (i mean cyanoacrylate)