Message from @[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/

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2020-05-07 04:03:58 UTC  

So essentially you want just enough gas for ejection and everything else to work properly and no more.

2020-05-07 04:04:03 UTC  

Gas rings will wear quicker

2020-05-07 04:04:11 UTC  

That’s basically exactly what you want

2020-05-07 04:04:12 UTC  

a little more than necessary for when its dirty

2020-05-07 04:04:18 UTC  

Just enough to cycle reliably

2020-05-07 04:04:36 UTC  

But not removing finish on the brass deflector

2020-05-07 04:08:15 UTC  

Gotcha.

2020-05-07 04:08:51 UTC  

Also what's a BCG and FCG.

2020-05-07 04:09:02 UTC  

bolt carrier groupo and fire control group

2020-05-07 04:19:24 UTC  

Over gassing doesn’t increase reliability, you just get increased parts wear and *different* malfunctions

2020-05-07 04:25:05 UTC  

Also @squidsoup0 id get a sling

2020-05-07 04:25:09 UTC  

And a WML

2020-05-07 04:26:02 UTC  

Ive got a steiner battlelight mk4 its just on a different ar right now. Youre definitely right on the sling though lol

2020-05-07 04:26:29 UTC  

I made this one from paracord because I only had one sling and like 7 rifles

2020-05-07 04:38:37 UTC  

Slightly overgassing allows your rifle to power through some grime, and cycle shitty underpowered ammunition. It's generally better to be slightly overgassed than undergassed, but the best way to do it is get an adjustable gas block and set it correctly.

2020-05-07 04:39:12 UTC  

There are little bandaids for over and under gassing, such as buffers and spring changes

2020-05-07 04:39:42 UTC  

See, but that’s based on the idea that a rifle can’t just...be correctly gassed.

2020-05-07 04:39:43 UTC  

Between an H buffer and an H3 buffer (if you buy both) you can make any weight combination available.

2020-05-07 04:40:13 UTC  

> See, but that’s based on the idea that a rifle can’t just...be correctly gassed.
@Crye_Salesman

I’m aware. I simply said it’s a bandaid for a rifle that is not properly gassed.

2020-05-07 04:40:23 UTC  

Yeah that was directed at confused

2020-05-07 04:40:52 UTC  

I gotcha.

2020-05-07 04:41:27 UTC  

I agree with your statements above. Any overgassing is just extra wear and tear on the parts. Over-gassing leads to increased wear on the gas-rings, causing them to have leakage faster, and to be inefficient.

2020-05-07 04:41:59 UTC  

Well the point of overgassing a rifle, at least supposedly, is that sometimes it might not get cleaned as often as it should and it's better to let it cycle through grime a bit and let the armourer deal with the parts wear than to have it stop working in the field.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it makes a bit of sense.

2020-05-07 04:42:12 UTC  

The extractor, bolt lugs, cam pin, And gas key all suffer when overgassing.

2020-05-07 04:42:33 UTC  

> Well the point of overgassing a rifle, at least supposedly, is that sometimes it might not get cleaned as often as it should and it's better to let it cycle through grime a bit and let the armourer deal with the parts wear than to have it stop working in the field.
> I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it makes a bit of sense.
@Artemis

With a *properly tuned rifle*, none of this is an issue.

2020-05-07 04:42:48 UTC  

Even a properly tuned rifle can run through dirt, grime, and the likes.

2020-05-07 04:43:11 UTC  

I have a properly tuned rifle. I don't exactly know about military ones but i haven't heard good things

2020-05-07 04:43:27 UTC  

It doesn’t have to be over gassed. I see your point and where you’re coming from, however.

2020-05-07 04:43:52 UTC  

Yeah, pretty much the entire AR15 industry outside of like 3 companies could decrease their gas ports by 10-30% and not see a change in reliability

2020-05-07 04:44:46 UTC  

Even more than that if they thought out the operating system and actually considered how to make the gas drive have a wider range of pressure and still be functional, which isnt that hard

2020-05-07 04:46:55 UTC  

Like the hk 416, and to a lesser extent the mk18, known for being viciously over gassed, supposedly for running through whatever you throw at it.
I don't know if this was by the choice of the manufacturer or mandated by the military though.

2020-05-07 04:54:43 UTC  

The MK18 is a...interesting discussion.
The 416 was designed *because* those overgassed .mil guns where tearing themselves apart every 6 months in some units

2020-05-07 04:56:12 UTC  

FAL: here have an adjustable gas system to overcome grime and variable ammo selection
G3: lol bolt go KACHUNK, *launches brass into orbit*

2020-05-07 04:58:31 UTC  

Anyone have that check off list of gear that was posted here before

2020-05-07 05:02:52 UTC  

@Artemis the HK416’s aren’t insanely bad with the vented gas blocks. I ran one with a suppressor for a while. Granted that setup was well over 10lbs how I usually shot it, but the felt recoil was less than my m4

2020-05-07 05:05:01 UTC  

@[CA] SoyBoi there’s one in <#706181190528270526>, although I’d rather have a discussion of what you *actually* need

2020-05-07 05:06:02 UTC  

@Crye_Salesman I have almost everything, except a helmet and Hawaiian shirt, idk what to look for in a helmet
Other than that it's double checking to see if anything small fell through the cracks

2020-05-07 05:06:46 UTC  

ach and ech are pretty good

2020-05-07 05:06:51 UTC  

My main thing is I have 2 backpacks
1 is if I have time and plan on being out for a while
2 I'm building currently, where I dont have time and its merely to get me out of where I'm at

2020-05-07 05:07:32 UTC  

First backpack is large and bulky
Second is compact, ideally I can take the large one, but the compact is if its life or death get out now kind of deal

2020-05-07 05:07:57 UTC  

How much do they run? Cause I can't drop 300 on a hemlet rn lol