Message from @Artemis

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2020-05-25 20:29:34 UTC  

If I'm paying that much, I don't really want any wobble. Otherwise, my only concern is if it'll fit whichever handguard I choose.

2020-05-25 20:34:33 UTC  

Looking at the hodge / zev wedge lock rail. Seems to have an even more solid lockup than geissele

2020-05-25 20:34:51 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704438047755862117/714577244776824943/Precision_Guided_Firearm.jpg

2020-05-25 20:35:23 UTC  

Does it come in mlok?

2020-05-25 20:35:40 UTC  

@Artemis if i remember correct they did a test with the zev rails and it took 800 pounds to finally get the rail to start separating

2020-05-25 20:36:16 UTC  

Pretty sure Zev makes the rails Triarc uses

2020-05-25 20:37:24 UTC  

Those receivers fit together beautifully and tightly @Artemis

2020-05-25 20:37:45 UTC  

From what I understand, Hodge invented the mount system and a bunch of other companies copied it. Triarc has a rail using a similar mounting system but a different rail design

2020-05-25 20:39:35 UTC  

Zev makes the hodge rails. Only difference is that the hodge ones are made of 7075-T6 aluminum and Zev uses 6061. Also a couple design differences apparently.

2020-05-25 20:39:59 UTC  

after they came out, everyone and their dog started using the wedge lock technology though

2020-05-25 20:40:04 UTC  

That sounds about right all around

2020-05-25 20:42:12 UTC  

They also have an anti rotation pin that slots into a hole drilled in Hodge and Zev upper receivers. It appears the noveske gen 3 upper has the same hole but idk if it lines up the same

2020-05-25 20:43:40 UTC  

being that tiny hole above the gas tube hole

2020-05-25 21:13:08 UTC  

Read some testing showing that the zev rail has less deflection than the g$ mk18 rail. When placing a 15 pound weight at 10" from the receiver face, repeatedly, showed an extremely consistent shift of 5moa

2020-05-25 21:13:46 UTC  

while the mk18 was 5.5 and not as consistent

2020-05-25 21:18:46 UTC  

Curious why they chose the Mk18

2020-05-25 21:18:52 UTC  

Also do you run lasers?

2020-05-25 21:24:27 UTC  

Hopefully some day

2020-05-25 21:26:36 UTC  

Gotcha

2020-05-25 21:26:51 UTC  

also I got that wrong, they picked the mk16

2020-05-25 21:27:19 UTC  

they tested the mk16, zev wedge lock, and bcm mcmr based on word of mouth from people in forums saying X is strongest rail

2020-05-25 21:35:21 UTC  

🙄 well, they purposely made the Mk16 *less* strong at the request of socom/usasoc to make a lighter rifle. It wasn’t designed to do that

2020-05-25 21:40:41 UTC  

Most people on internet forums probably don't know that. They just think newest geissele urgi rail that's super expensive must be strongest

2020-05-25 22:15:55 UTC  

Yes haha. Arfcom has to be...filtered haha

2020-05-25 22:32:25 UTC  

I actually have a mk14 on my other one and it's a fantastic rail. My only issue, which is really nitpicking, is that the set screw tabs that center it on the upper seem a bit inelegant compared to the rest of the rail. Idk what it is about it but it just feels like a half assed way of aligning a rail that nice.

2020-05-25 22:32:41 UTC  

It works though

2020-05-25 23:38:18 UTC  

Yeah, I reckon they did that because people will throw them on all kinds of receivers

2020-05-26 01:55:29 UTC  

Ah fuck I can't find it. I saw someone in a forum mention how they had a psa upper on a kac lower and I blacked out in a fit of rage and confusion

2020-05-26 02:22:28 UTC  

Oh I looked it up. Knights Armament?

2020-05-26 02:23:38 UTC  

@Artemis what about my BCA upper on my Noveske lower?

2020-05-26 02:25:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704438047755862117/714665449337520148/fite_me.png

2020-05-26 02:26:08 UTC  

Jk I'm an unarmed peasant for now.

2020-05-26 02:28:07 UTC  

That just gave me an idea

2020-05-26 02:30:00 UTC  

I recall telling people to buy a noveske or other high tier brand stripped upper and lower then putting Anderson or PSA internals in it.

2020-05-26 02:30:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704438047755862117/714666786930425896/20200525_213026.jpg

2020-05-26 02:32:34 UTC  

Oof. When someone shows their cracked Anderson bcg in their noveske upper and it makes noveske look bad

2020-05-26 02:34:26 UTC  

I plan to have one solid AR and I'm gonna put quality parts in it, finances permitting. Not gonna lie though, the political climate scares me where I'm getting tempted to credit card a whole build.

2020-05-26 02:35:21 UTC  

It's rough if you go that route. The interest adds up

2020-05-26 02:38:45 UTC  

Nope

2020-05-26 02:38:50 UTC  

XD