So at what Point do we start showing up at people houses?

What exactly do you mean?

Not any time soon hopefully @Copbot1001

I would hope so too

Seems like a point of no return

It absolutely is

Which is why we all need to work together, to try to NOT hit thay

This was being distributed by other people at the rally. I was really surprised they were already being printed

I’ve noticed we get most of our support from conservatives or independents with a farther right attitude

I think our biggest ally in gaining support from the other side is claiming ICE as one of our main issues. ICE has been tearing families apart and we can get a a lot more support

^^^^^

They're the only demographic naturally funneled in by shitposting about killing feds in firearms groups.

ICE is a good target. Prison reform, too.

strong agree

especially because ICE is an agency that very purposefully skirts the edges of the constitution and abuses the shit out of their 'authority'

Got to speak about it the way libs and leftists do though. A huge barrier with them is the signalling mechanisms you use to articulate your protests. Lot of internicene feuds there.

Mostly among leftists

Also, the USDA destroying food is another bad thing to pay attention to.

That can lead to *many* families’ suffering.

I agree completely. I hate to say it but we may need to start having some protests without kit or firearms. Liberals see us that way and our message goes right over their head

We got any good sourcing on the mechanics of that, @[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ ?

@Pat.Henry Im not sure that protesting *with* these other groups would be to our benefit. But cooridnating with them so that rather than clashing with each other, both groups are occupying the police and completely overwhelm them

@Crye_Salesman I don’t want to protest with them but to have a cause they sympathize with would help us gain support from people on that side of the spectrum. We want people’s support! Not the parties

strongly agree

I love that idea with the USDA! People need food in these times. No reason we should be destroying the surplus amount

I don't get the fixation on protesting. Gives you PR, makes a lot of noise. Rarely results in any change not already in the establishment's mind. Easily results in crackdowns

Civil disobedience with an explicit goal is good, though. That salon, for instance. Ideas like Patrick Connelly's farmer outreach idea builds power, and cultural authority.

The big thing is community service.

We need to provide good services for communities and for the people.

I personally agree. It seems that protesting gets nothing done (For example Virginia’s turnout protesting fine rights) but I see it as a way to get our message out and try and gain support

Exactly. Show that we are for the people

I 99% believe that the Dallas Salon deal is going to get us major support that we need.

*gun rights

We need some more of that and I think we will start to see a lot more of it

We need to endorse good actions, and flame bad actions.

we discussed in voice chat last night that there is some basis in america that follows a path of vote>protest peacefully>civil disobedience>protest angrily>militant action and most people feel some moral obligation to declare and demonstrate their grievances and give the govt opportunity to respond

Skipping steps makes it easier to call us “extremists”

yep. and it makes it very clear who has no real interest in their civil liberties when they make fun of people for following that precedence of events

Va was good shit, but it's a double-edged sword. Without control over MSM messaging, a very strong portion of the population just sees a bunch of wannabe soldiers playing dress up. No real connection to the gun-owning demographic or protestors.

Concur, although the distrust in MSM is growing exponentially. I dont know anyone my age who thinks CNN, Fox, MSNBC are anything more than memes, and even my conservative, sheltered family is able to see the blatant hypocrisy and bias

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