Message from @HonorVirtutisPraemium
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Communist and Fascist economies tend not to last very long.
This does not justify your statement and it again falls into the economics-only trap.
They mostly resort to the same shit.
What same shit?
After they collapse
What collapse?
They all have collapsed
Did *any* Fascist economy collapse, or did the state itself?
None has lasted.
Mate, you are not justifying your points.
You said Communism and Fascism have very few differences. How?
And, I oblige you to not act a Liberal in defining your reasoning.
@HonorVirtutisPraemium Also in the sense of wealth redistribution, distritbutionist values (which aren't really that confaltable and were quite ancient in European common law) and culturally liberal ideas that relaxed certain values for the sake of making more Germans. Further, the word socialism was also used to differentiate Germany from Russia and its communism. They liked the general idea of larger government to replace the Kaizer AND Weimar and they liked the idea of a safety net due to a weak economy.
You two were arguing faster than I could type...maybe I shouldn't get involved?
@-A The end goal was the creation of the Organic, not the Totalitarian. National Socialism was a scheme to remodel the nation, not a goal in and of itself.
Again, I oblige reading more.
The same with communicsm.
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Oh, really? The goal of Communism was to create an Organic state a la idealised-Rome?
That does not change the fact that they used the word socialism and used socialist mechanisms for their restoration of Germany.
I wonder why Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, and numerous others never wrote as much either.
@-A They did not use Socialist mechanisms unless you are using the Austrian definition of Socialism (cf. Hayek; Mises; Friedman; Rothbard)
There is no organic Roman state
@Death Strike's Bat Hence what I said.
House of Hohenzollern wen't into a war on mere hope they would win, a war that they knew ment their end
They followed Austrian agression ignoring the fact that Russian Empire is the only power in Euope that had both ambition and willingness to preserve the old order
They did not think the rest of Europe saw what the did in the Franco Prussian war
You gotta do what you gotta do. Romania did the same thing, they just got a more humane result.
Unfalsifiable claims.
Not really, Russian Emperor was for peace from very beginning
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@HonorVirtutisPraemium So are you saying that my own list of policies would be considered less-than-socialist by Monarchists, Marxists/Trotskyites/Lenninists, mainstream economists and/or more in depth historians of economics?
I am saying that Socialism differs from the solely economic and degenerate definitions of the Austrian school.
@TheEnlightenedShepherd I was talkign about WWII but okay.
Identity > policies
Relegating life to the economic sphere is a result of degeneration.
Rofl
Yeah tell that to Diocletian
@-A WW II was perhaps even greater folly