Message from @-A

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2017-01-31 23:14:17 UTC  

Mate, you are not justifying your points.

2017-01-31 23:14:34 UTC  

You said Communism and Fascism have very few differences. How?

2017-01-31 23:14:47 UTC  

And, I oblige you to not act a Liberal in defining your reasoning.

2017-01-31 23:14:51 UTC  

@HonorVirtutisPraemium Also in the sense of wealth redistribution, distritbutionist values (which aren't really that confaltable and were quite ancient in European common law) and culturally liberal ideas that relaxed certain values for the sake of making more Germans. Further, the word socialism was also used to differentiate Germany from Russia and its communism. They liked the general idea of larger government to replace the Kaizer AND Weimar and they liked the idea of a safety net due to a weak economy.

2017-01-31 23:15:16 UTC  

You two were arguing faster than I could type...maybe I shouldn't get involved?

2017-01-31 23:15:38 UTC  

@-A The end goal was the creation of the Organic, not the Totalitarian. National Socialism was a scheme to remodel the nation, not a goal in and of itself.

2017-01-31 23:15:47 UTC  

Again, I oblige reading more.

2017-01-31 23:16:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/276128485435768832/Rudolf_Jung_-_Der_Nazionale_Sozialismus.pdf

2017-01-31 23:16:20 UTC  

The same with communicsm.

2017-01-31 23:16:23 UTC  

....

2017-01-31 23:16:36 UTC  

Oh, really? The goal of Communism was to create an Organic state a la idealised-Rome?

2017-01-31 23:16:44 UTC  

Well! I wonder why Marx never wrote that.

2017-01-31 23:16:53 UTC  

That does not change the fact that they used the word socialism and used socialist mechanisms for their restoration of Germany.

2017-01-31 23:16:55 UTC  

I wonder why Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, and numerous others never wrote as much either.

2017-01-31 23:17:10 UTC  

@-A They did not use Socialist mechanisms unless you are using the Austrian definition of Socialism (cf. Hayek; Mises; Friedman; Rothbard)

2017-01-31 23:17:14 UTC  

There is no organic Roman state

2017-01-31 23:17:26 UTC  

@Death Strike's Bat Hence what I said.

2017-01-31 23:17:56 UTC  

House of Hohenzollern wen't into a war on mere hope they would win, a war that they knew ment their end

2017-01-31 23:18:53 UTC  

They followed Austrian agression ignoring the fact that Russian Empire is the only power in Euope that had both ambition and willingness to preserve the old order

2017-01-31 23:18:54 UTC  

They did not think the rest of Europe saw what the did in the Franco Prussian war

2017-01-31 23:19:05 UTC  

You gotta do what you gotta do. Romania did the same thing, they just got a more humane result.

2017-01-31 23:19:07 UTC  

Unfalsifiable claims.

2017-01-31 23:19:34 UTC  

Not really, Russian Emperor was for peace from very beginning

2017-01-31 23:20:10 UTC  

,.,........

2017-01-31 23:20:48 UTC  

@HonorVirtutisPraemium So are you saying that my own list of policies would be considered less-than-socialist by Monarchists, Marxists/Trotskyites/Lenninists, mainstream economists and/or more in depth historians of economics?

2017-01-31 23:21:11 UTC  

I am saying that Socialism differs from the solely economic and degenerate definitions of the Austrian school.

2017-01-31 23:21:11 UTC  

@TheEnlightenedShepherd I was talkign about WWII but okay.

2017-01-31 23:21:23 UTC  

Identity > policies

2017-01-31 23:21:26 UTC  

Relegating life to the economic sphere is a result of degeneration.

2017-01-31 23:21:39 UTC  

Rofl

2017-01-31 23:21:49 UTC  

Yeah tell that to Diocletian

2017-01-31 23:21:52 UTC  

@-A WW II was perhaps even greater folly

2017-01-31 23:22:00 UTC  

They had to start wwii

2017-01-31 23:22:06 UTC  

Yeah sure

2017-01-31 23:22:09 UTC  

Just ask Hitler

2017-01-31 23:22:10 UTC  

Thar was there reason to exist

2017-01-31 23:22:16 UTC  

HonorVirtuistPraemium Such as the glorification of single mothers and interchangeability between Landons and German-looking Jews who changed their religion?

2017-01-31 23:22:20 UTC  

That was Hitler's reason to be in power.

2017-01-31 23:22:49 UTC  

One must differentiate from German propaganda about their own war

2017-01-31 23:22:57 UTC  

And the reality behind it's organiation

2017-01-31 23:23:02 UTC  

What? @-A