National Socialism/Fascism, I'm saying.

Read why Lenin thought he was democratic

I am not discussing Socialism.

Leninist democracy

Facsism is not Socialism 😐

Is Bolshevism

It is communism by another name.

In practice.

Mate.

It's really not.

Whee it has lasted.

There are huge differences.

You're under the fallacy they viewed Liberals under: all things are economic.

There are very few differenxxea.

Very few? Are you serious?

Yea

Define that or at least justify it.

Communist and Fascist economies tend not to last very long.

This does not justify your statement and it again falls into the economics-only trap.

They mostly resort to the same shit.

What same shit?

After they collapse

What collapse?

They all have collapsed

Did *any* Fascist economy collapse, or did the state itself?

None has lasted.

Mate, you are not justifying your points.

You said Communism and Fascism have very few differences. How?

And, I oblige you to not act a Liberal in defining your reasoning.

@HonorVirtutisPraemium Also in the sense of wealth redistribution, distritbutionist values (which aren't really that confaltable and were quite ancient in European common law) and culturally liberal ideas that relaxed certain values for the sake of making more Germans. Further, the word socialism was also used to differentiate Germany from Russia and its communism. They liked the general idea of larger government to replace the Kaizer AND Weimar and they liked the idea of a safety net due to a weak economy.

You two were arguing faster than I could type...maybe I shouldn't get involved?

@-A The end goal was the creation of the Organic, not the Totalitarian. National Socialism was a scheme to remodel the nation, not a goal in and of itself.

Again, I oblige reading more.

The same with communicsm.

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Oh, really? The goal of Communism was to create an Organic state a la idealised-Rome?

Well! I wonder why Marx never wrote that.

That does not change the fact that they used the word socialism and used socialist mechanisms for their restoration of Germany.

I wonder why Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, and numerous others never wrote as much either.

@-A They did not use Socialist mechanisms unless you are using the Austrian definition of Socialism (cf. Hayek; Mises; Friedman; Rothbard)