Message from @HonorVirtutisPraemium
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It's the same shit man
Racial paradise socialist workers paradise.
Same crap
Different names.
Different imagined favored people
The idea was never to empower the workers.
The goal was to take their livelihoods - their work and the only form of life in Liberalism - and use that as a means to reform them into whatever was pleased.
No the point of communism is not to empower the people.
If Liberalism has made the economic all that matters in life then subjugating the economic allows you to put life under your control.
National Socialism/Fascism, I'm saying.
Read why Lenin thought he was democratic
I am not discussing Socialism.
Leninist democracy
Facsism is not Socialism 😐
Is Bolshevism
It is communism by another name.
In practice.
Mate.
It's really not.
Whee it has lasted.
You're under the fallacy they viewed Liberals under: all things are economic.
There are very few differenxxea.
Very few? Are you serious?
Yea
Define that or at least justify it.
Communist and Fascist economies tend not to last very long.
This does not justify your statement and it again falls into the economics-only trap.
They mostly resort to the same shit.
What same shit?
After they collapse
What collapse?
They all have collapsed
Did *any* Fascist economy collapse, or did the state itself?
None has lasted.
Mate, you are not justifying your points.
You said Communism and Fascism have very few differences. How?
And, I oblige you to not act a Liberal in defining your reasoning.
@HonorVirtutisPraemium Also in the sense of wealth redistribution, distritbutionist values (which aren't really that confaltable and were quite ancient in European common law) and culturally liberal ideas that relaxed certain values for the sake of making more Germans. Further, the word socialism was also used to differentiate Germany from Russia and its communism. They liked the general idea of larger government to replace the Kaizer AND Weimar and they liked the idea of a safety net due to a weak economy.
You two were arguing faster than I could type...maybe I shouldn't get involved?
@-A The end goal was the creation of the Organic, not the Totalitarian. National Socialism was a scheme to remodel the nation, not a goal in and of itself.