Ultimately at least

no big deal, just the whole ocean is destroyed

maybe for now, pragmatism is the uh

the south will rise again

pragmatic course

THE MASSES REQUIRE DIRECTION, YES, WHICH IS WHY CULTURE-RULE (NATIONALISM) PLUS ARISTOCRACY

like jebus from the cave big tex will rise once more

You cant move people with nationalism

It doesn't work

I DISAGREE

NATIONALISM INSPIRES

It is a relatively feeble tie to bind

To a degree

More than say, sports team

does anyone care barely due to globalism now?

is the internet generation nationalist?

Ideology of the Aristocracts has always been supra-national, it has to be

But Aristocracy is nevertheless, aware of the significance of nationalism

Nationalism I think, shows promise only for a few generations

inevitably, prosperity and comfort, new generations, new points of view

bring fractures quickly

how do you make the nation take the place of say, God?

Even if it ultimate principle isn't God

I DO NOT WANT TO REPLACE GOD

NATION AND GOD ARE COMPLEMENTARY IDEAS

I think you have to, to make nationalism a binding force in and of itself

who is the god of texas?

big tex?

How do you solve the God problem basically

As far as I am concerned, there is no more powerful motivation

@The Enlightened Shepherd AGREED. NATIONALISM, ARISTOCRACY AND PIETY POTENTIATE ONE ANOTHER.

@fallot GODS ARE SPECIFIC TO PEOPLES

Right from day to day life, down to civilizations

EVEN INTERPRETATIONS OF GODS

Sure

I'm not saying anything has to exist for this

AND SO, THE TWO COEXIST

HERE IS A THOUGHT:

IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE IDEA TO TURN GOD INTO AN IDEOLOGY

DO YOU SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT, @fallot ?

I do, I don't agree I think