Yarf Mangione

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2017-02-12 17:45:03 UTC [Realism #general]  

'indo'

2017-02-12 17:45:10 UTC [Realism #general]  

indo means hindu

2017-02-12 17:45:21 UTC [Realism #general]  

you just said indoism is not indo

2017-02-12 17:47:24 UTC [Realism #general]  

hindi is indo-european

2017-02-12 17:47:48 UTC [Realism #general]  

they are indo-aryans, aryan mixed with dravidian

2017-02-12 17:48:00 UTC [Realism #general]  

just as europeans are europeans mixed with aryans (I1/2 and R1a/b)

2017-02-12 17:48:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

modern hindus outright worship aryan gods still like ostara

2017-02-12 17:48:39 UTC [Realism #general]  

(germanic easter goddess)

2017-02-12 17:49:10 UTC [Realism #general]  

I do not think you know much about hinduism if you believe what you said

2017-02-12 17:49:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

Dyaus Pita in hinduism is literally 'Deus' from Europe and what Germany is named after 'Deutschland'

2017-02-12 17:50:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

mongols used to cook food by putting it under their saddle then the friction of riding cooked it

2017-02-12 17:52:59 UTC [Realism #general]  

ganesha, vishnu, shiva, and the earth mother are the most popular hindu gods as far as I know

2017-02-12 17:53:13 UTC [Realism #general]  

vishnu and shiva are of aryan origin

2017-02-12 17:53:21 UTC [Realism #general]  

ganesha is based in part on aryan

2017-02-12 17:53:30 UTC [Realism #general]  

the earth mother is indeed their local earth mother goddess

2017-02-12 17:53:47 UTC [Realism #general]  

then why did vedic people worship shiva?

2017-02-12 17:53:53 UTC [Realism #general]  

they even have nordic artwork of him

2017-02-12 17:54:05 UTC [Realism #general]  

why does he have 'white person hair' ?

2017-02-12 17:54:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

he looks r1b to me

2017-02-12 17:54:35 UTC [Realism #general]  

how is odin not european?

2017-02-12 17:55:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

r1a would be from eastern europe and the eurasian steppe, and would be the source of odin

2017-02-12 17:55:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

he is

2017-02-12 17:55:52 UTC [Realism #general]  

odin is the all-father, not sky father

2017-02-12 17:56:04 UTC [Realism #general]  

odin is more similar to brahma in hinduism

2017-02-12 17:56:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

I said similar

2017-02-12 17:56:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

I do not believe odin was ever in india

2017-02-12 17:57:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

yeah, due to the migration age and viking life style of migration, he is the god of migrating

2017-02-12 17:57:48 UTC [Realism #general]  

germans continued to worship tiw as the head god on the continent in germany

2017-02-12 17:58:05 UTC [Realism #general]  

hence being teutonic

2017-02-12 17:58:30 UTC [Realism #general]  

the last king of the saxons did a ritual for tiw as the head god

2017-02-12 17:59:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

yeah

2017-02-12 17:59:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

tiw I read was the god of war, justice (law), the forest, and the people, hence the national leader god

2017-02-12 17:59:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

odin makes more sense for migrators and vikings

2017-02-12 18:00:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

I know, will and something else

2017-02-12 18:00:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

Brahma is exactly the same with 3 heads

2017-02-12 18:00:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

I forgot what ve translate to in english

2017-02-12 18:01:05 UTC [Realism #general]  

I remember it being what they call a shrine

2017-02-12 18:01:32 UTC [Realism #general]  

if I recall right it is senses and physical features?

2017-02-12 18:01:45 UTC [Realism #general]  

yeah

2017-02-12 18:02:01 UTC [Realism #general]  

so how is this not like hinduism?

2017-02-12 18:02:06 UTC [Realism #general]  

if it line ups with brahma

2017-02-12 18:02:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

and tiw lines up with dyaus

2017-02-12 18:02:36 UTC [Realism #general]  

I would compare hinduism to heathenism like I would compare judaism to christianity

2017-02-12 18:02:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

they have kings and rajs

2017-02-12 18:03:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

also not all germanics had kingdoms, saxons had a republic where they only elected a king during war

2017-02-12 18:03:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

yeah sounds like now

2017-02-12 18:04:18 UTC [Realism #general]  

I just found your comparison odd

2017-02-12 18:04:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

hinduism is by its nature an indo-european religion

2017-02-12 18:05:02 UTC [Realism #general]  

christianity is semitic with an aryan undertone

2017-02-12 18:05:24 UTC [Realism #general]  

then why is the bible in aramiac?

2017-02-12 18:05:36 UTC [Realism #general]  

it is from palestine actually

2017-02-12 18:06:16 UTC [Realism #general]  

it is still in palestine today

2017-02-12 18:06:21 UTC [Realism #general]  

they are not extinct

2017-02-12 18:06:34 UTC [Realism #general]  

they still use jesus' tomb as a church

2017-02-12 18:07:01 UTC [Realism #general]  

the european forms, yeah

2017-02-12 18:07:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

they are by their nature bastard religions

2017-02-12 18:07:36 UTC [Realism #general]  

this makes the palestinians more pure christian

2017-02-12 18:07:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

while european churches are mixed

2017-02-12 18:07:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

they lack the european influence

2017-02-12 18:08:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

I mean oriental Christianity to be clear

2017-02-12 18:08:52 UTC [Realism #general]  

as far as I can tell they are a fully maintained Christian community since the original religion in Palestine

2017-02-12 18:09:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

palestine was a roman province at the time of its creation

2017-02-12 18:10:05 UTC [Realism #general]  

I do not follow, why did it spread from palestine to europe?

2017-02-12 18:10:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

oh

2017-02-12 18:10:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

no, rome converted nearly 400 years after it was created in palestine

2017-02-12 18:10:58 UTC [Realism #general]  

so you are saying you believe the original one is gonenow

2017-02-12 18:11:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

I would not know, I do not deeply study palestinian religion

2017-02-12 18:11:25 UTC [Realism #general]  

so oriental christiantiy is just a splitoff of roman christianity?

2017-02-12 18:11:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

I mean whenever it split

2017-02-12 18:11:52 UTC [Realism #general]  

1054 or whatever

2017-02-12 18:12:07 UTC [Realism #general]  

he stole one of sonic's rings

2017-02-12 18:12:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

are you sure in palestine they do this?

2017-02-12 18:13:11 UTC [Realism #general]  

altright then, I gues they are influenced by this

2017-02-12 18:13:27 UTC [Realism #general]  

still I have no idea how this relates to odin

2017-02-12 18:13:34 UTC [Realism #general]  

as compared to hinduism actually relating

2017-02-12 18:14:05 UTC [Realism #general]  

I would compare Brahma to Odin

2017-02-12 18:14:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

Brahma is the creator god

2017-02-12 18:14:25 UTC [Realism #general]  

Brahma has 3 heads and is bearded

2017-02-12 18:14:32 UTC [Realism #general]  

like odin and his two brothers

2017-02-12 18:14:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

he does in one form actually

2017-02-12 18:15:45 UTC [Realism #general]  

I cannot remember his multiheaded form right now, but he had four in it (Brahma can have four heads too)

2017-02-12 18:16:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

Well it symbolises the 3 vedas, the 4th veda being added later

2017-02-12 18:16:38 UTC [Realism #general]  

I am quite sure it predates Christianity by hundreds of years actually

2017-02-12 18:17:34 UTC [Realism #general]  

I never dated all the heads to check

2017-02-12 18:17:38 UTC [Realism #general]  

but the vedas do

2017-02-12 18:18:05 UTC [Realism #general]  

I noticed buddhists have it as well such as bonten

2017-02-12 18:19:08 UTC [Realism #general]  

I need to check something I can reference

2017-02-12 18:21:20 UTC [Realism #general]  

Vishvamitra mentions the 3, 4, and 5 headed Brahma and is in the Rigveda

2017-02-12 18:22:19 UTC [Realism #general]  

that was probably carjack

2017-02-12 18:23:37 UTC [Realism #general]  

I can see them adopting Latin artwork, it makes sense

2017-02-12 18:23:47 UTC [Realism #general]  

they stole Hermes for angles and cupid for cherub art

2017-02-12 18:24:35 UTC [Realism #general]  

I mean they use them from greek mythology

2017-02-12 18:24:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

I cannot tell cupid apart from the christian depictions based on old roman art

2017-02-12 18:26:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

I notied Hermes is their version of an angel

2017-02-12 18:26:19 UTC [Realism #general]  

as angel means 'winged messenger' in Iranian

2017-02-12 18:26:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

they use the exact same art

2017-02-12 18:27:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

but anyway, I am just supporting what you said about christians adopting greco-roman art style

2017-02-12 18:27:39 UTC [Realism #general]  

like I said, it is essentially a bastard religion

2017-02-12 18:28:24 UTC [Realism #general]  

early cathedrals essentially are roman temples from what I understand

2017-02-12 18:29:18 UTC [Realism #general]  

I saw some in italy that were modified buildings

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