Message from @Nester

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2017-02-24 18:20:52 UTC  

I don't disagree

2017-02-24 18:21:07 UTC  

but it doesn't address the basic phenomenon or quality of consciousness

2017-02-24 18:21:12 UTC  

A ball kicked doesn't return to you until a wall it hits reverses its motion. Did the ball have its will to continue forward resisted by the wall? Rather than that, the ball is constantly reacting to its environment, and in the same sense, your senses are constant receivers of stimulus.

2017-02-24 18:21:31 UTC  

it makes more sense to me to consider our configurations

2017-02-24 18:21:33 UTC  

like prisms

2017-02-24 18:21:37 UTC  

or lenses

2017-02-24 18:21:50 UTC  

which focus undifferentiated consciousness

2017-02-24 18:21:58 UTC  

"<hella_pitted> what you guys call order is merely abstract patterns we invent out of representions." Why could we represent?

2017-02-24 18:22:05 UTC  

Why isn't that an impossible task?

2017-02-24 18:22:11 UTC  

In truth we had found the key
But its application would unravel this mystery

2017-02-24 18:22:23 UTC  

Why could we pattern*

2017-02-24 18:23:50 UTC  

Consciousness can't be fundamental like that

2017-02-24 18:24:30 UTC  

what is there to be conscious of

2017-02-24 18:25:37 UTC  

itself

2017-02-24 18:25:48 UTC  

undifferentiated consciousness would be conscious of itself, its consciousness

2017-02-24 18:25:54 UTC  

its existence

2017-02-24 18:28:08 UTC  

But you never experience consciousness

2017-02-24 18:29:01 UTC  

the closest we get to experiencing consciousness is sleep

2017-02-24 18:29:31 UTC  

IF ONLY THEY COULD UNDERSTAND HARDANGERVIDDA LIKE ME

2017-02-24 18:29:59 UTC  

Is consciousness awareness, and will desire?

2017-02-24 18:30:25 UTC  

You're not conscious during sleep but you exist

2017-02-24 18:30:32 UTC  

it would explain the use of the term "woke"

2017-02-24 18:31:05 UTC  

which is kind of a neat parallel to draw between inarticulate people who are trying to explain some phenomenon

2017-02-24 18:31:45 UTC  

Are they parts of one greater thing, or is will a subset of consciousness?

2017-02-24 18:31:48 UTC  

but being woke means being overly conscionable

2017-02-24 18:31:56 UTC  

Plants aren't conscious but experience a world of represention somewhat the same as we do but their actions are nonetheless guided

2017-02-24 18:32:16 UTC  

star fish too if you want something else as an example

2017-02-24 18:33:05 UTC  

Obviously at face value, consciousness is a gradient of something else

2017-02-24 18:33:29 UTC  

The key insight here is underneath all of it is that sort of "guiding" drive

2017-02-24 18:33:43 UTC  

that's within everything, even inert matter

2017-02-24 18:33:51 UTC  

"inert" "matter"

2017-02-24 18:34:33 UTC  

@Nester no nester will is not a subset of consciousness, consciousness is a gradient of will

2017-02-24 18:35:00 UTC  

If not invoking the soul, biology is singularly shaping of consciousness. We'd perceive differently as to us having different bodies(and brains).

2017-02-24 18:35:51 UTC  

i just want to lift weights and do SARMs with pete steele

2017-02-24 18:35:57 UTC  

I don't know what you're saying when you don't talk about metal

2017-02-24 18:36:04 UTC  

Impenetrable nesterisms

2017-02-24 18:36:23 UTC  

What explains different perceptions?

2017-02-24 18:36:32 UTC  

@vry_o fuck weights drink beer, listen to maiden and ride that pussy like a stroller

2017-02-24 18:36:36 UTC  

im watching a stink bug eat from a yogurt cup on my desk

2017-02-24 18:36:44 UTC  

i am going to name him