Message from @Hagel

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2017-02-26 18:40:07 UTC  

Kvädare - 01/23/2017
Insight into certain parts of a human's mind
It's definitely a higher form of art than architecture
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
How is that expressed by the process of creation itself in that case? I don't see how you could texture a game replay with sufficient insight as to express emotions more complex than a dynamic of intensity.
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
The game itself captures struggle between minds better than many other art forms usually can
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
You sound like you are describing a primordial mathematical work, but a mathematical work grants explicit insight into the thought process, whereas I would say that the thought processes in a game replay are not only wholly related to the game itself but themselves must be interpreted through so many filters and permutations as to be of questionaable value
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
and produces awe inspiring results when used by masters
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
Yes, but in a fashion that relates almost entirely to the context of that game
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
You can see what's in a person's mind
when he is destroying an inferior mind, or when he is overwhelmed by a superior one
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
You can interpret what you believe is in a person's mind based on what you have experienced
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
That applies to all things
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
Yes, but those are value judgements anchored to personas
And their expression itself is not really in the spirit of art
Whereas you could argue something like Dali's wife as Mary Magdalene in Corpus Hypercubus merely pondering the figure of Christ expresses a meaningful relationship, I would not say the same for the respect or terror someone has for a better gamer

2017-02-26 18:40:08 UTC  

Kvädare - 01/23/2017
If being a language must be part of art's definition, then it would not be art
But it is beautiful (the system itself, and what can be done within it)
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
There is a tangible effect and something interesting about the psychodynamics, one could argue, but I don't think it's artistic
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
that is why I think of it in the same way that I think of art
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
I feel like you are a bit euphemistic in your use of the word art, but I see where you are coming from
Pants Versacianno - 01/23/2017
@Hagel are you trying to defend the years you burned playing competitive star craft by rationalizing it as some great pursuit
it seems a bit like that to me
I'd wager that most people, even snooty art types, watch a game reply and think of it no more than watching two people play a game
Like I dunno chess
Because spectating these things don't produce aesthetic experience
Nester - 01/23/2017
Art would be senselessly defined were it not defined as the fixed and uninteractive product of someone wishing to convey insight through disciplined expression, as it would not preclude countless things from qualifying were meaning possibly derivable through contrived interpretations.
Picking nose hairs could potentially then be art.

2017-02-26 18:40:11 UTC  

fag

2017-02-26 18:40:14 UTC  

I realize this is beating a dead horse

2017-02-26 18:40:15 UTC  

ho

2017-02-26 18:40:20 UTC  

but there is no more relevant meme

2017-02-26 18:40:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/285481227484397568/B0Y7hcW.jpg

2017-02-26 18:40:36 UTC  

*not a

2017-02-26 18:40:42 UTC  

"I don't think that interactivity that does not accumulate to anything can be said to be art"

2017-02-26 18:40:44 UTC  

please ludvig keep moving the goalposts so you never have to discuss anything except as a big tantrum

2017-02-26 18:40:53 UTC  

It accumulates to a depiction of a thing that exists in nature, like a painting

2017-02-26 18:41:00 UTC  

Theoretically a game could be a moving painting, if it was drawn well enough

2017-02-26 18:41:01 UTC  

No it doesn't

2017-02-26 18:41:13 UTC  

We were talking about starcraft replays nigga

2017-02-26 18:41:24 UTC  

can you stay on topic

2017-02-26 18:41:29 UTC  

or is it all just feelings to you brother

2017-02-26 18:41:39 UTC  

i think it's hilarious how pol thinks they are the best trolls when it's gnaa alumni that do the best work

2017-02-26 18:41:56 UTC  

It depicts a natural thing.

2017-02-26 18:41:57 UTC  

actually don't answer that the MBTI says more than real evidence ever could

2017-02-26 18:41:59 UTC  

If paintings of landscapes are art, so are they

2017-02-26 18:42:15 UTC  

fucking LOL @ that pic

2017-02-26 18:42:15 UTC  

starcraft matches aren't a natural thing

2017-02-26 18:42:39 UTC  

profag is the knee-bender

2017-02-26 18:42:50 UTC  

Everyone shall bend their knee when he wills it

2017-02-26 18:42:50 UTC  

Neither is colour on paper, or artificial soundwaves

2017-02-26 18:42:53 UTC  

you can't even concede that we already debated this

2017-02-26 18:43:06 UTC  

They represent natural occurrences or objects

2017-02-26 18:43:10 UTC  

and that you being a fag is the main motivator of you being bullied

2017-02-26 18:43:20 UTC  

not anything to do with your ideas themselves

2017-02-26 18:43:27 UTC  

like you are gayer than your ideas ludvig that's the problem

2017-02-26 18:43:35 UTC  

RAPE CULTURE AND ANTIFA SHOULD WALK UNDER THE ARCH OF TITUS

2017-02-26 18:43:41 UTC  

SHOWS THE SON OF GOD AND SON OF MAN, TITUS

2017-02-26 18:43:46 UTC  

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's commuter daaaaaan

2017-02-26 18:43:50 UTC  

SACKING JERUSALEM, KILLING THE JEWS

2017-02-26 18:43:51 UTC  

rape culture is russian

2017-02-26 18:44:01 UTC  

commuter dan

2017-02-26 18:44:01 UTC  

oh well glad we talked about this here

2017-02-26 18:44:12 UTC  

just an average bloke

2017-02-26 18:44:18 UTC  

BASHING THE FUCKING BRAINS OUT OF HTE PRINCESS OF THE JEWS CHILDREN

2017-02-26 18:44:18 UTC  

with exceptional opinions