Message from @fallot

Discord ID: 291227350820061204


2017-03-14 15:10:12 UTC  

IT IS THE NATURE OF THE STATE

2017-03-14 15:10:15 UTC  

well that's why you need that "qualitative" element

2017-03-14 15:10:16 UTC  

REPLACE WITH ARISTOCRACY

2017-03-14 15:10:18 UTC  

you put something on top of them

2017-03-14 15:10:20 UTC  

NEIN

2017-03-14 15:10:24 UTC  

aristocracy is still state

2017-03-14 15:10:26 UTC  

QUALITATIVE IS INHERENT TO LIFE

2017-03-14 15:10:34 UTC  

SIMPLE EFFECTIVE METHODS LEAD TO MORE COMPLEX ONES

2017-03-14 15:10:35 UTC  

even with aristocrats, at a certain level of complexity

2017-03-14 15:10:41 UTC  

you need mandarins to run shit

2017-03-14 15:10:44 UTC  

NO, PER NIETZSCHE, THE STATE IS THE OPPOSITE OF ARISTOCRACY

2017-03-14 15:10:57 UTC  

whatever, he cried over some dead horse

2017-03-14 15:11:44 UTC  

Aristocracies if strong need FEWER bureaucrats. Stronger executive, more coherent society requires less oversight.

2017-03-14 15:11:55 UTC  

Fear and loyalty and cultural cohesion.

2017-03-14 15:12:19 UTC  

@fallot EVOLA SAID THE SAME

2017-03-14 15:12:25 UTC  

AGREED @Jake Saga

2017-03-14 15:12:33 UTC  

STRONG LEADERSHIP = FEWER RULES = GREATER CLARITY

2017-03-14 15:12:36 UTC  

AND SODOMY

2017-03-14 15:13:18 UTC  

the only real issue I think is

2017-03-14 15:13:22 UTC  

what keeps everyone on message

2017-03-14 15:13:31 UTC  

if one bit fucks up, what motivates the rest to police it

2017-03-14 15:13:47 UTC  

even with aristocracies, you can have the issue of degeneration

2017-03-14 15:14:07 UTC  

e.g. Aurelius -> Commodus

2017-03-14 15:14:40 UTC  

I don't think humanity has an answer to that better than religion, but I'm open to fascistic nationalism hitler style to be tried again

2017-03-14 15:14:47 UTC  

I think it will fail but it deserves another shot

2017-03-14 15:15:52 UTC  

The French Revolution occurred because unrepentant Peasants refused to accept the starvation that Divinity ordained and the Monarchy executed as just punishment for their petulance.

Had they chosen to keel over, as would have been right and proper, the population would have stabilized at sustainable levels. The fantasy of upward mobility contained within the slogan, “liberty, fraternity, equality, would not have been so gripping nor so all-consuming. Above all, neither the Nobility nor the Monarchy would have been compelled to part with the privileges that are their birth right in order to appease the hungry mob who chose to over procreate.

2017-03-14 15:20:30 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism you should get that guy to write for amerika

2017-03-14 15:27:42 UTC  

WHIP THE RUDE AND UNWASHED WITH CANES

2017-03-14 15:35:03 UTC  

The french revolution did not happen because peasants were starving

2017-03-14 15:35:18 UTC  

peasants had nothing to do with revolution

2017-03-14 15:35:28 UTC  

revolution was a parisian coup

2017-03-14 15:35:33 UTC  

They never do

2017-03-14 15:35:35 UTC  

true

2017-03-14 15:35:42 UTC  

essentially, a bit more massive than st. petersburg bolshevik coup

2017-03-14 15:36:43 UTC  

peasants are by their nature not very revolutionary minded, but are often used as a cannon fodder by cunning ideologues who pick them as a primary target for "revolutionary education"

2017-03-14 15:36:46 UTC  

due to their naivete

2017-03-14 15:36:51 UTC  

peasants are clever, but also naive

2017-03-14 15:37:58 UTC  

just like our masses here who have been trained to embrace their own demise

2017-03-14 15:38:21 UTC  

lol at english traditionalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQIBJdiR3HE

2017-03-14 15:38:40 UTC  

england is in terrible condition

2017-03-14 15:38:46 UTC  

it's overcrowded with foreigners