Message from @fallot

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2017-04-11 12:44:19 UTC  

But once they amasse large enough stockpile, and adequate delivery methods, they will be able to develop the rest of their forces

2017-04-11 12:44:20 UTC  

it's absolutely pragmatic

2017-04-11 12:44:58 UTC  

until they are tested, why wouldn't they just continue doing what they are doing? It leads to excellent results

2017-04-11 12:45:05 UTC  

They are

2017-04-11 12:45:07 UTC  

they "toe the line" and the response is never censure

2017-04-11 12:45:14 UTC  

it will always be appeasement

2017-04-11 12:45:17 UTC  

all UN and similar estimates are slow and are always downplaying

2017-04-11 12:45:30 UTC  

DPRK has a small stockpile of warheads, and has delivery methods

2017-04-11 12:45:30 UTC  

it's already a thing

2017-04-11 12:45:55 UTC  

they only don't posses long range missiles, which for their most immediate purposes, aren't necessary

2017-04-11 12:46:22 UTC  

define long range

2017-04-11 12:46:23 UTC  

"we will wipe out toky or seoul"

2017-04-11 12:46:31 UTC  

is sloganeering

2017-04-11 12:46:32 UTC  

the real power of nukes is their ability to wipe out entire battle fleets

2017-04-11 12:46:33 UTC  

like, able to reach the united states?

2017-04-11 12:46:48 UTC  

nukes on battle fleets

2017-04-11 12:46:52 UTC  

come on man

2017-04-11 12:46:57 UTC  

how do you think this stuff works

2017-04-11 12:47:23 UTC  

if you've got that kind of intelligence on a whole fleet you can even throw suicide boats at it and do major damage, much less nukes

2017-04-11 12:47:50 UTC  

I'm familiar

2017-04-11 12:49:03 UTC  

I can't even imagine a proper delivery method for such a device

2017-04-11 12:49:36 UTC  

I don't think you can put a nuclear warhead on those russian anti-carrier missiles

2017-04-11 12:51:25 UTC  

the issue is ballistics, how will you get an undetectable launch on a ballistic missile

2017-04-11 12:51:50 UTC  

and hit a mobile target, about which you may not be sure re: its position

2017-04-11 12:52:09 UTC  

even the biggest, craziest nuke you can imagine, it's just not a feasible strategy

2017-04-11 12:52:14 UTC  

oh, you could use a cruise missile

2017-04-11 12:53:05 UTC  

google tells me China has a viable anti ship ballistic missile

2017-04-11 12:53:14 UTC  

the device detonates under water

2017-04-11 12:53:18 UTC  

or above water level

2017-04-11 12:53:44 UTC  

it does not have to hit the ship

2017-04-11 12:53:52 UTC  

I understand that

2017-04-11 12:53:54 UTC  

theoretically

2017-04-11 12:54:03 UTC  

I don't think you're appreciating the logistics involved nevertheless

2017-04-11 12:54:15 UTC  

it could be dropped by a suicide bomber, who would accept the risk of being eventually intercepted and shot down

2017-04-11 12:54:34 UTC  

who would be basically cruising at top speed before delivery

2017-04-11 12:55:10 UTC  

just theoretically

2017-04-11 12:55:16 UTC  

you would need multiples of those to even have a chance

2017-04-11 12:55:42 UTC  

moving target with radar, ability to intercept, lack of surety about exact position

2017-04-11 12:56:00 UTC  

and likely with air cover

2017-04-11 12:56:46 UTC  

nukes are more significant as a threat to stationary civilian populations than anything else