Message from @devolved

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2017-04-12 21:06:20 UTC  

do they export it all

2017-04-12 21:07:07 UTC  

it's not

2017-04-12 21:07:14 UTC  

there have been periods of famine though

2017-04-12 21:07:28 UTC  

the problem isn't exactly that they don't have enough food, though that is an issue too

2017-04-12 21:07:43 UTC  

it's they don't have a real answer for variation and unexpected events

2017-04-12 21:07:50 UTC  

so like Africa, a bad season can lead to a mass die off

2017-04-12 21:08:17 UTC  

Agriculture relied on electrically powered irrigation systems and artificial fertilizers and pesticides, and was hard hit by the economic collapse.[16][17]

2017-04-12 21:08:22 UTC  

re: the 90s famine

2017-04-12 21:08:35 UTC  

yeah

2017-04-12 21:09:11 UTC  

koreans have a long history of intensive agriculture

2017-04-12 21:09:15 UTC  

and are no africans

2017-04-12 21:09:25 UTC  

so if things are bad, they are really bad

2017-04-12 21:09:39 UTC  

shit is also bad for the old Soviet Russia reasons

2017-04-12 21:09:52 UTC  

yeah but isn't like 80% of the population farmers

2017-04-12 21:10:58 UTC  

I think so, not sure

2017-04-12 21:11:26 UTC  

probably if they fed themselves only in a localized, communal fashion

2017-04-12 21:11:28 UTC  

they would be fine

2017-04-12 21:12:21 UTC  

but then you add scale, and you add no real connection to their own production

2017-04-12 21:17:42 UTC  

@fallot yeah I've heard of the LBrothers from some random blog rec years ago.

2017-04-12 21:18:38 UTC  

sry for wikipedo

2017-04-12 21:40:42 UTC  

@fallot most Africans live at an early iron age level.

2017-04-12 21:41:09 UTC  

Circular thatch huts like the most primitive Irish tribes ( not the ones with the high kings)

2017-04-12 21:41:15 UTC  

yeah I know

2017-04-12 21:42:00 UTC  

Slabs and burn agriculture. Sub classical world. Medieval peasants are 2000 years ahead of them

2017-04-12 21:42:23 UTC  

North Korean peasants basically live in 1900

2017-04-12 21:44:07 UTC  

These are people who can't figure out crop rotation or building a spiked plough. Some have classical era board ploughs making them German peasants in antiquity.

2017-04-12 21:53:40 UTC  

I would not necessarily write NK of

2017-04-12 21:56:10 UTC  

Obviously, they have to somehow manage inner tensions

2017-04-12 21:56:21 UTC  

But NK is the only country in the world that dares to openly say

2017-04-12 21:56:23 UTC  

MILITARY FIRST

2017-04-12 21:56:31 UTC  

And make it an official state ideology

2017-04-12 21:56:53 UTC  

And not only that, but to make military the most important and most desirable social function, for both men and women

2017-04-12 21:57:15 UTC  

Meaning that bourgeoisie spirits are systematically annihilated over there

2017-04-12 21:58:26 UTC  

It seems that NK elite is clever enough to notice

2017-04-12 21:58:41 UTC  

That the only thing that can undermine that system, is a prolonged period of peace and sense of safety

2017-04-12 21:58:48 UTC  

Which is why they manufacture hostilities

2017-04-12 22:16:06 UTC  

hi

2017-04-12 22:28:59 UTC  

hello @Ragnar

2017-04-12 22:35:01 UTC  

@Ragnar hello

2017-04-12 22:48:34 UTC  

I am irate about "fake news"