Message from @diversity_is_racism
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NATIONALISM DOES NOT IMPLY "INCLUDE EVERYONE"
THAT IS EGALITARIANISM
Hence hierarchy of values is necessary to achieve proper unity
Of a nation
People who complain how aristocracy is unpatriotic
forget that it's preciselly aristocracy which enables the best ones to floruish, even in poorer environments
It did miracles in Russian Empire, which matched Europe in scientific achievements and arts
And most important
It is necessary also to consider merits of civilization on their own ground
RUSSIA DID NOT MATCH WESTERN EUROPE IN SCIENCE OR ARTS
I AGREE ON ARISTOCRACY
IT ENCOURAGES THE BEST
I don't consdier for example "uncivilized" Mongols to be lacking values which can be considered superior
THE PROBLEM WITH MONGOLS IS THAT THEY ARE OTHER
NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT
@diversity_is_racism It performed quite well, especially in arts
@The Enlightened Shepherd YOU HAD A BETTER CLAIM FOR RUSSIA IN THE SCIENCES...
Highly disagree
Painting, literature, music, ballet
Russian Empire was very very prolific in these
MINOR EXCEPTION FOR DOSTOYEVSKY
ALTHOUGH HE REMINDS ME OF AYN RAND
VERY BLOCKy, OBVIOUS FORMS
Hmmm
Rachmaninoff music is today consdiered to be somewhat representative of the "cerebral" music
But at the time it appeared it was quite "edgy"
Russian Music, in terms of output only, peaked during Romanticist era, which is why it can be underappreciated today, since these sentiments are nowadays considered as passe
I certainly dislike Romanticism
However...
Consider Europe of the preciselly that era
Debussy ?
If nothing, Russia was at least superior to this
who's the dude that did night on the bareback mountain? When I was listening to classical I liked that one
I can never remember his name
Pretty sure he was Russian
MUSGORSKY?
DEBUSSY WAS MODERN
yeah modest murgosky
FOR ROMANTICISM, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT BEETHOVEN, SCHUBERT, SCHUMANN, AND THE LATER MOZART
that's right