then there's no point in saying it

no certainly

IT SEEMS TO BE VERY PHYSICAL

you need brains

HOWEVER

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT CONSCIOUSNESS ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE PROPERTIES BEYOND THE PHYSICAL

MUCH AS INFORMATION AND COMPUTATION ARE CONTAINED WITHIN MICROCHIPS AND WIRES, YET HAVE BROADER IMPLICATIONS

what I am referring to specifically is "imagination" "inspiration" "intuition"

"the spiritual"

AND TRANSCEND THEIR MATERIAL ORIGINS

"the heart"

DEFINITELY

INTUITION IS SOMETHING ELSE

alright, but keeping that aside

IT MAY BE BIOLOGICALLY ENCODED, BUT THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHEN THE BRAIN ACTS AS ANTENNA NOT COMPUTER

whatever that realm is, would you agree that it is the realm of symbols?

NOT NECESSARILY SYMBOLS

the essence or true nature or primary information kernel or whatever you want to call it of symbol

INTUITION FOR EXAMPLE IS NOT SYMBOLIC

I disagree

NOR IS THE SUBCONSCIOUS

again, disagree

but keeping that aside

HOW ARE YOU USING THE TERM "SYMBOLIC" HERE?

symbolic: visually encoded truth/information carrier

symbol = the external and the inner vision associated

both

so what the symbol is explicitly and what it implies

would both be the symbol, else it's just a pictogram or something

or a word

I mean I'm not out to convince you of what is prior and what is not, but I just wanted to clarify

that this is where I was coming from with that

VISUALLY ENCODED TRUTH

And the essential thing, psychologically, is that in dreams, fantasies, and other exceptional states of mind the most far-fetched mythological motifs and symbols can appear autochthonously at any time, often, apparently, as the result of particular influences, traditions, and excitations working on the individual, but more often without any sign of them. These "primordial images" or "archetypes," as I have called them, belong to the basic stock of the unconscious psyche and cannot be explained as personal acquisitions. Together they make up that psychic stratum which has been called the collective unconscious.
The existence of the collective unconscious means that individual consciousness is anything but a tabula rasa and is not immune to predetermining influences. On the contrary, it is in the highest degree influenced by inherited presuppositions, quite apart from the unavoidable influences exerted upon it by the environment. The collective unconscious comprises in itself the psychic life of our ancestors right back to the earliest beginnings. It is the matrix of all conscious psychic occurrences, and hence it exerts an influence that compromises the freedom of consciousness in the highest degree, since it is continually striving to lead all conscious processes back into the old paths

-Jung

THIS CONCEPT IS NOT CONSISTENT TO ME

the word encoded is a best-fit

WHAT HE CALLS SYMBOL IS MORE ACCURATE METAPHOR

OR KENNING

dunno what a kenning is

IS CONSCIOUSNESS FUNDAMENTALLY METAPHORICAL? IT WORKS BY COMPARISON