Message from @fallot

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2017-04-24 18:28:24 UTC  

but in fact a doublethink process is occuring, where in the moment they are fully playing the part

2017-04-24 18:28:37 UTC  

but it's ultimately completely insincere

2017-04-24 18:28:51 UTC  

sociopaths are therefore likely to make excellent actors or conmen

2017-04-24 18:29:00 UTC  

as long as they don't have other issues

2017-04-24 18:29:27 UTC  

I suspect most, or all, self help types are sociopaths

2017-04-24 18:29:40 UTC  

as they are basically predators and people who need self-help books etc. are their prey

2017-04-24 18:29:49 UTC  

vulnerable people who want to strengthen themselves or better themselves

2017-04-24 18:29:52 UTC  

credulous people

2017-04-24 18:30:21 UTC  

this can be anyone, even apparently strong people, if they have one or two domains in which they lack and perceive themselves to lack

2017-04-24 18:30:51 UTC  

this is broadly true; other aspects of self help also contain a multitude of sociopaths

2017-04-24 18:30:58 UTC  

specifically the fitness world (where I know for sure)

2017-04-24 18:31:07 UTC  

and the pick-up/game world (where I suspect)

2017-04-24 18:32:07 UTC  

all of these people are literal gurus, of the indian sort, and if people knew what the qualities of the true guru are they would not be so easily fooled by these people

2017-04-24 18:37:30 UTC  

PUAs basically teach how to be a sociopath

2017-04-24 18:37:35 UTC  

a false guru

2017-04-24 18:37:43 UTC  

compulsively posts on various forums

2017-04-24 18:37:53 UTC  

But most of these self help people do to some extent

2017-04-24 18:37:54 UTC  

watch that thread devolve, swiftly

2017-04-24 18:38:15 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism how the hell did you ever get stuck on this (dangerous and) crazy dude

2017-04-24 18:38:27 UTC  

those who attain some realization have the furthest to fall

2017-04-24 18:38:38 UTC  

and become the most perverted and sickened

2017-04-24 18:38:50 UTC  

the ones who have a lower consciousness have much more mundane faults and sins

2017-04-24 18:50:33 UTC  

Who is this savagewind goober

2017-04-24 18:51:31 UTC  

no idea, but he has nearly 30,000 posts

2017-04-24 18:51:40 UTC  

which makes him a monster

2017-04-24 18:53:00 UTC  

@devolved all that matters is: what is crow doing? Why is he doing it?

2017-04-24 18:53:13 UTC  

He isn't content with his own forums

2017-04-24 18:53:26 UTC  

he needs something out of this exercise

2017-04-24 18:54:00 UTC  

the true guru never comes bearing gifts, only the conman does

2017-04-24 19:21:22 UTC  

Dunno we'll have to go find him on his canuck island and ask

2017-04-24 20:48:38 UTC  

What nihilists know that everyone else denies is that language has no inherent meaning. Only when two people are both using a word to mean the same thing can the word have shared meaning, and otherwise you have two people talking to themselves and hoping the other can intuit what is being gestured.

2017-04-24 20:48:40 UTC  

completely incoherent

2017-04-24 20:48:51 UTC  

no inherent meaning, yet shared meaning possible

2017-04-24 20:49:03 UTC  

what this really means is that language sounds are arbitrary but meaning is not

2017-04-24 20:49:22 UTC  

so there would be a language at two levels

2017-04-24 20:51:18 UTC  

if the other can "intuit what is being gestured", doesn't that tell you anything?

2017-04-24 20:51:22 UTC  

anyway, never mind

2017-04-24 20:53:07 UTC  

why is this called conservatism? It isn't, it's a particular idealism of reality, a "realism"