Message from @diversity_is_racism

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2017-04-28 17:02:49 UTC  

but the basic concept of jews in art -> less visual more "conceptual" art

2017-04-28 17:02:55 UTC  

is reasonably compelling

2017-04-28 17:04:52 UTC  

my own theory is visuospatial intelligence is an important factor in music composition

2017-04-28 17:05:09 UTC  

I'm sure you've had some similar ideas re: music as shape in musical space

2017-04-28 17:05:31 UTC  

I THINK SO

2017-04-28 17:05:40 UTC  

ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES IT SEEMS MORE LOGICAL/MATHEMATICAL

2017-04-28 17:05:47 UTC  

AND THERE IS A STRONG EMOTIONAL/REALIST COMPONENT

2017-04-28 17:05:59 UTC  

I DO NOT RECALL ANY STUNNING JEWISH VISUAL ART

2017-04-28 17:06:01 UTC  

INTERESTING

2017-04-28 17:06:07 UTC  

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MODERN ART IS DEMOCRATIZED ART

2017-04-28 17:06:08 UTC  

it's ultimately a complex phenomenon, but just in terms of the basic substrate of "good melody"

2017-04-28 17:06:12 UTC  

AND THEREFORE IS INHERENTLY ANTI-TECHNICAL

2017-04-28 17:06:15 UTC  

SORT OF LIKE PUNK ROCK

2017-04-28 17:06:28 UTC  

is it democratized in actuality though?

2017-04-28 17:06:38 UTC  

you would think it makes art "accessible"

2017-04-28 17:06:38 UTC  

GOOD MELODY REQUIRES UNDERSTANDING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN NOTES PLUS THE ABILITY TO LISTEN

2017-04-28 17:06:42 UTC  

but ultimately it stays quite elite

2017-04-28 17:06:46 UTC  

IT IS DEMOCRATIZED IN AUDIENCE

2017-04-28 17:06:51 UTC  

no I really disagree

2017-04-28 17:06:53 UTC  

BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ARTISTIC ELITES

2017-04-28 17:06:56 UTC  

MEANING

2017-04-28 17:07:03 UTC  

modern art is for modern elites

2017-04-28 17:07:06 UTC  

not for ordinary people

2017-04-28 17:07:07 UTC  

THERE IS NOTHING THERE WHICH HOLDS BACK A PERSON FROM APPRECIATING OR PARTICIPATING

2017-04-28 17:07:10 UTC  

ordinary people do not appreciate it

2017-04-28 17:07:12 UTC  

THE HIGH VALUE OF ART GUARANTEES THESE ELITES

2017-04-28 17:07:21 UTC  

ORDINARY PEOPLE DO NOT APPRECIATE IT, BUT IT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THEM

2017-04-28 17:07:24 UTC  

HOWEVER IT IS NOT RELEVANT

2017-04-28 17:07:27 UTC  

THUS THEY DO NOT ATTEND IT

2017-04-28 17:07:33 UTC  

THIS SEEMS PARADOXICAL BUT IS NOT

2017-04-28 17:07:35 UTC  

I don't think it's accessible to them either (or to anyone)

2017-04-28 17:07:50 UTC  

it's part of the appeal to elites

2017-04-28 17:07:57 UTC  

that normal people "dont get" modern art

2017-04-28 17:08:10 UTC  

whereas a work of beauty is instantly accessible due to the force of its beauty

2017-04-28 17:08:25 UTC  

the lowest person can see it and gain something, even if they do not appreciate its ultimate depth

2017-04-28 17:09:00 UTC  

it's "concept art" that is entirely opaque, and no one really gets it, they just like the exercise of nodding and pretending they get it with a group of likeminded people

2017-04-28 17:09:07 UTC  

and these people, in my view, tend to be elites

2017-04-28 17:09:21 UTC  

there is no true postmodern kitsch either

2017-04-28 17:09:26 UTC  

THINK OF IT LIKE ART ROCK

2017-04-28 17:09:26 UTC  

maybe kitsch level art

2017-04-28 17:09:30 UTC  

IT SEEMS ELITE