Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-05-27 17:52:50 UTC  

the pagan tree -> christmas tree doesn't seem like a fluid thing

2017-05-27 17:52:54 UTC  

Look up the history of Christmas

2017-05-27 17:52:58 UTC  

even if it does have definite origins

2017-05-27 17:53:08 UTC  

in pre-christian practices and beliefs

2017-05-27 17:53:13 UTC  

seems pretty obvious to me

2017-05-27 17:53:28 UTC  

it does seem obvious, which I admit

2017-05-27 17:53:37 UTC  

that the origin is these practices and beliefs

2017-05-27 17:53:43 UTC  

the question is though, is it a later imposition/addition

2017-05-27 17:53:50 UTC  

christmas trees are a masonic invention

2017-05-27 17:53:53 UTC  

or was it organically transmitted due to these people accepting christianity

2017-05-27 17:53:55 UTC  

because they look like pyramids

2017-05-27 17:53:59 UTC  

that's what you're trying to say

2017-05-27 17:54:04 UTC  

no

2017-05-27 17:54:09 UTC  

but close!

2017-05-27 17:54:25 UTC  

this specific "tree of life" symbolism infiltrated christianity

2017-05-27 17:54:37 UTC  

masonry is a new thing

2017-05-27 17:54:37 UTC  

and the star on top is just the cherry on top

2017-05-27 17:54:53 UTC  

tree of life isn't only a european symbol

2017-05-27 17:54:59 UTC  

yes, I'm aware

2017-05-27 17:55:01 UTC  

Midwinter in Scandinavia is dark, so they put lights on fir trees

2017-05-27 17:55:02 UTC  

it existed in levant, south asia, pretty much everywhere

2017-05-27 17:55:14 UTC  

that's why it's a fir and not an oak or whatever

2017-05-27 17:55:22 UTC  

Christianity could not exist as a remotely relevant tradition had it not borrowed from Traditional teachings

2017-05-27 17:55:24 UTC  

that seems like a rationalisation after the fact @Deleted User 57835c2c

2017-05-27 17:55:26 UTC  

It would be like Islam

2017-05-27 17:56:30 UTC  

Even "esoteric Islam" has basically nothing to do with Koran, other than when it comes to the most circuitous rationalizations

2017-05-27 17:56:42 UTC  

esoteric Islam = hellenic teachings

2017-05-27 17:56:45 UTC  

good, it should infiltrate christianity

2017-05-27 17:56:53 UTC  

and we should bring back more pagan symbols

2017-05-27 17:57:07 UTC  

and ceremonies

2017-05-27 17:57:18 UTC  

the star atop the tree to represent the star of bethlehem

2017-05-27 17:57:20 UTC  

just makes no sense

2017-05-27 17:57:27 UTC  

why not

2017-05-27 17:57:37 UTC  

because of the origins of the tree itself

2017-05-27 17:57:39 UTC  

Norse fir and spruce trees with midwinter pagan symbolism->some autism about lights->Christmas tree

2017-05-27 17:57:46 UTC  

why should you have this symbol placed where it is?

2017-05-27 17:57:49 UTC  

the only connection is

2017-05-27 17:57:54 UTC  

there is a star in one place, and a star in another

2017-05-27 17:57:56 UTC  

just like Odin became wants

2017-05-27 17:57:59 UTC  

Santa