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in levant itself there were at least 10 other ethnicities, many of them indo-european
The relevance of ancient pre-Christian customs to the 16th Century German initiation of the Christmas tree custom is disputed. Resistance to the custom was often because of its confirmed Lutheran origins.[12]
16th century German
yeah, that sits right with me
i think it is more ancient than that
Other sources have tried to make a connection between the first documented Christmas trees in Alsace around 1600 and pre-Christian traditions. For example, according to the Encyclopædia Britannica, "The use of evergreen trees, wreaths, and garlands to symbolize eternal life was a custom of the ancient Egyptians, Chinese, and Hebrews. Tree worship was common among the pagan Europeans and survived their conversion to Christianity in the Scandinavian customs of decorating the house and barn with evergreens at the New Year to scare away the devil and of setting up a tree for the birds during Christmas time."[13]
in orthodox world, especially here, we didnt decorate trees, but we instead burned oak branches
in eastern europe i think they did decorate trees too
we decorated houses
the pagan tree -> christmas tree doesn't seem like a fluid thing
Look up the history of Christmas
even if it does have definite origins
in pre-christian practices and beliefs
seems pretty obvious to me
it does seem obvious, which I admit
that the origin is these practices and beliefs
the question is though, is it a later imposition/addition
christmas trees are a masonic invention
or was it organically transmitted due to these people accepting christianity
that's what you're trying to say
no
but close!
this specific "tree of life" symbolism infiltrated christianity
masonry is a new thing
and the star on top is just the cherry on top
tree of life isn't only a european symbol
yes, I'm aware
Midwinter in Scandinavia is dark, so they put lights on fir trees
it existed in levant, south asia, pretty much everywhere
that's why it's a fir and not an oak or whatever
Christianity could not exist as a remotely relevant tradition had it not borrowed from Traditional teachings
that seems like a rationalisation after the fact @Deleted User 57835c2c
It would be like Islam
Even "esoteric Islam" has basically nothing to do with Koran, other than when it comes to the most circuitous rationalizations
esoteric Islam = hellenic teachings
good, it should infiltrate christianity
and we should bring back more pagan symbols
and ceremonies