Message from @fallot

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2017-06-30 04:27:40 UTC  

this link is a horror show

2017-06-30 04:27:51 UTC  

You can approach any vocation morally or immoraly

2017-06-30 07:44:09 UTC  

I like the blurb

2017-06-30 07:44:15 UTC  

now to read it

2017-06-30 07:44:31 UTC  

great, it's not an article

2017-06-30 07:45:04 UTC  

the tweet is correct, this "counterculture" proceeds from anonymous figures and the anonymous multitude

2017-06-30 07:45:19 UTC  

the visible figures are not important

2017-06-30 07:45:42 UTC  

whether that is a good thing is worth debate, but I don't think the actual assertion is debateable

2017-06-30 07:46:00 UTC  

the visible figures did not precede the upswell

2017-06-30 07:46:11 UTC  

first came the change, then riding that wave came various figures

2017-06-30 07:46:44 UTC  

the kind of ideas Milo for instance has, they are a further iteration of stuff that has been slowly developed (on the internet, anonymously) for a couple of years

2017-06-30 07:47:22 UTC  

if someone asked me to name one, just one, person who I thought was the most important to all of this shit

2017-06-30 07:47:29 UTC  

despite not liking him very much I would say Steve Sailer

2017-06-30 07:47:36 UTC  

who, while not anonymous, is certainly not a visible figure

2017-06-30 07:59:28 UTC  

it s funny how you participate in talks anonymously and then 1 week later you see the talking points used by Milo or Cernovich

2017-06-30 08:01:14 UTC  

what incentive is to not be anonymous? save the magical white race? fuck that. if you risk your personal image, at least do it for shekels.

2017-06-30 08:11:28 UTC  

why don't you tell me

2017-06-30 08:11:31 UTC  

what the incentive is

2017-06-30 08:12:10 UTC  

I have the opposite impression

2017-06-30 08:12:19 UTC  

Milo and Cernovich talk about stuff that has been discussed generally years ago

2017-06-30 08:12:48 UTC  

both of these people are not big thinkers by any means

2017-06-30 08:13:22 UTC  

one is a promoter, both self and others, one is basically an old school self-improvement-scam seller and now a neo-journalist

2017-06-30 08:13:43 UTC  

if they talk about something, you can be pretty sure they didn't come up with it

2017-06-30 08:14:21 UTC  

the media gives one the impression that these people are important by their attention on them

2017-06-30 08:14:28 UTC  

this is why people were pissed at the Spencer event

2017-06-30 08:14:35 UTC  

because the media could crown him king of the alt right

2017-06-30 08:14:50 UTC  

the whole battlefield, or even enemy, is mass media, nothing more or less

2017-06-30 08:14:56 UTC  

the alt right is a mass media movement

2017-06-30 08:58:36 UTC  

there is an attitude on the right in general about "doing things"

2017-06-30 08:58:45 UTC  

which I think stems from individual personality

2017-06-30 08:58:54 UTC  

some kinds of people are not satisfied unless they feel they are "doing things"

2017-06-30 08:59:08 UTC  

and generally this ranges from political entryism to literally busting heads

2017-06-30 08:59:38 UTC  

but did leftists in the US ever preoccupy themselves with stuff like this?

2017-06-30 08:59:48 UTC  

how did they "win"

2017-06-30 09:00:07 UTC  

what makes your average, basically decent, person a leftist in their metaphysics and politics?

2017-06-30 09:00:43 UTC  

what makes them say: I guess tranny bathroom are alright after all etc.

2017-06-30 09:19:40 UTC  

they don't say anything, they just go along