Message from @Apollo'sJest
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okay
sure, yes of course
what you said about the french president etc. is irrelevant
what I said was in response to what you said about councils
a tribal council is not the normal state of organization of a tribe
or its highly unusual for this to be the case
if you scale down society to hunter gatherer level, then sure
so like kings can have ministers and councils
so can tribes have councils
yet, the chief/elder exists nevertheless as the head
and would tend to head any such council
But... We live in a world dominated by republican systems.... Are you proposing that this occurance in nature is unnatura?
like I said
lets not worry about unnatural
also, I never said anything about any other system
ok
No, but I bring it up (as an example) of something *else* occuring in nature
I'm not for or against monarchy
however yes I would say republican systems are unnatural
in the sense that they require a certain setup of civilization
they can only occur at a certain level of societal development and scale
and inevitably
such a setup is temporary
it will always fail, and always default back to kings
rome is a great example
that it will fail doesn't mean its not worth doing or whatever
but its the case
the history of man is a history of kings, not republics
unnatural is a very loaded word, I stand by what I said but it carries connotations of disgust, undesirability etc.
I don't mean those
I actually agree with the seamingly temporary nature of Republics but your original point (the one that I called retarded af) was that monarchy is the natural state of human society. You realise that recorded History is a small fraction of our species history right?
it's possible to raise children in a communal environment
the argument there is you can see an obvious step up
from society at small scale
For most of our existance we were naked apes in jungles...
to kings at large scale
your answer is in what you said
human society
society requires behavioural modernity