Message from @Apollo'sJest
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the evidence of history is vast
The natural state of humans is all of pre-history
that seems arbitrary
natural is what is in nature, what develops spontaneously and organically
and even if it isn't
this is just nitpicking over the word natural
it doesn't change anything about the point
how is a republic less natural than?
is republic kind of behaviour something you see in tribal organization
which you can step up to a republic at a large scale?
lets not worry about natural
Tribal councils occur all the fucking time in rudimentory societies brah
sure they do, but there's still a chief
kings also have ministers and councils/counsel
Yes, and France has a president, your point?
you just made a discussion ending move
You mean I made a point you cannot refute?
no, you don't seem like you are able to follow me, and will default to saying whatever comes to your mind/makes sense to you
to bolster your point
i.e. bad faith
Any hints?
okay
sure, yes of course
what you said about the french president etc. is irrelevant
what I said was in response to what you said about councils
a tribal council is not the normal state of organization of a tribe
or its highly unusual for this to be the case
if you scale down society to hunter gatherer level, then sure
so like kings can have ministers and councils
so can tribes have councils
yet, the chief/elder exists nevertheless as the head
and would tend to head any such council
But... We live in a world dominated by republican systems.... Are you proposing that this occurance in nature is unnatura?
like I said
lets not worry about unnatural
also, I never said anything about any other system
ok
No, but I bring it up (as an example) of something *else* occuring in nature
I'm not for or against monarchy