Message from @fallot
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VERY DECENT PLACE
When I was about 17 my whole family visited London
As we were leaving my brother here due to him having a bad environment and circle of friends back home.
We stayed for 2 weeks
It was the first time I had ever come to the west despite being born in the UK
I had no memories of my time there
What I remember then at 17, I am now 32
Was how white London was
And how it had a certain ambience of its own
I returned to London in 2011. Again for 2 weeks.
Wildly different
Even in the nicer places, it was obvious white people were not as ubiquitous as they were even a few short years ago
My point is that this is a level of change that would have caused an unprecedented pushback most other places in the world
Here it seems to have occured without anyone noticing or caring
THE ABSENCE OF CULTURE IS EASILY PERCEIVED
I WENT FROM A MINORITY MAJORITY CITY TO OLD EUROPE
AND SAW WHAT WE HAD LOST
THERE IS MORE TRUST, SURE, BUT MOSTLY MORE ORDER, RHYTHM AND BALANCE
EVERYTHING IS JUST MORE RELAXED AND LESS HOSTILE
relaxed and less hostile is probably it
you can have a cohesive culture populated by subgroups, you have that anyway simply due to class
is the basic attitude open (not just polite, or not even polite) or cut-off?
by this bar some arab countries are not cohesive at all, while others are
Egypt would be fine, but not say Qatar
question for the gallery, is metal in any of its forms, the modern day iteration of baroque, romantic, and classicaly music? is it explicitly white? are the musicians playing it some of the best in the world? I thought I'd agree with all these sentiments
metal is (was) the modern day expression of a cultural/spiritual trend that resulted in romanticism
its roots in baroque music lie in it being western music
classical it is not connected to beyond individual inspiration and being art music
a thing like metal cannot be specifically white, but its definitely something that arose from a white metaconsciousness/spirit
its as white as indian classical music is indian
i.e. a lot, but not absolutely
are the musicians playing it some of the best in the world? Depends on what one means by musician
if this is restricted to technical skill alone, not even close
few among them reach the standards of even passable classical musicians (not soloists either)
and the ones that do reach such standards are rarely any good
but if taken in the sense of one who produces music, which encompasses both elements of music production
the technical element as well as the abstract, creative element
then I would certainly think they have been the best in the world as far as any kind of western music is concerned, for >100 years
does metal music occupy the same place, or does it have the same function
as western classical music?