Message from @fallot
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It is something I have noticed
But find hard to communicate
Some westerners seem to be totally divorced from the intangibles of a unified whole culture (even a messy or shit one)
Telling people what they are missing is beyond me so I am curious about how you would express what you noticed
@anon AUSTIN = HIV
HAVING VISITED PARTS OF EUROPE WITH HIGH TRUST: EVERYTHING HAS A PLACE, AND SO YOU CAN TELL AT A GLANCE WHAT IS NORMAL
Such as @diversity_is_racism ?
Parts I mean
@fallot WESTERN EUROPE, BUT 30 YEARS AGO
ALSO VISITED EAST GERMANY
AND PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN EUROPE, NOTABLY YUGOSLAVIA
WHICH I LIKED
VERY DECENT PLACE
When I was about 17 my whole family visited London
As we were leaving my brother here due to him having a bad environment and circle of friends back home.
We stayed for 2 weeks
It was the first time I had ever come to the west despite being born in the UK
I had no memories of my time there
What I remember then at 17, I am now 32
And how it had a certain ambience of its own
I returned to London in 2011. Again for 2 weeks.
Wildly different
Even in the nicer places, it was obvious white people were not as ubiquitous as they were even a few short years ago
My point is that this is a level of change that would have caused an unprecedented pushback most other places in the world
Here it seems to have occured without anyone noticing or caring
THE ABSENCE OF CULTURE IS EASILY PERCEIVED
I WENT FROM A MINORITY MAJORITY CITY TO OLD EUROPE
AND SAW WHAT WE HAD LOST
THERE IS MORE TRUST, SURE, BUT MOSTLY MORE ORDER, RHYTHM AND BALANCE
EVERYTHING IS JUST MORE RELAXED AND LESS HOSTILE
relaxed and less hostile is probably it
its not just trust, you're quite right
you can have a cohesive culture populated by subgroups, you have that anyway simply due to class
is the basic attitude open (not just polite, or not even polite) or cut-off?
by this bar some arab countries are not cohesive at all, while others are
Egypt would be fine, but not say Qatar
question for the gallery, is metal in any of its forms, the modern day iteration of baroque, romantic, and classicaly music? is it explicitly white? are the musicians playing it some of the best in the world? I thought I'd agree with all these sentiments
metal is (was) the modern day expression of a cultural/spiritual trend that resulted in romanticism
its roots in baroque music lie in it being western music