Message from @fallot

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2017-08-11 11:05:48 UTC  

solved

2017-08-11 12:40:14 UTC  

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2017-08-11 12:51:51 UTC  

@anon say some more words about cultural gut feeling

2017-08-11 12:52:00 UTC  

It is something I have noticed

2017-08-11 12:52:13 UTC  

But find hard to communicate

2017-08-11 12:53:15 UTC  

Some westerners seem to be totally divorced from the intangibles of a unified whole culture (even a messy or shit one)

2017-08-11 12:54:00 UTC  

Telling people what they are missing is beyond me so I am curious about how you would express what you noticed

2017-08-11 12:57:46 UTC  

@anon AUSTIN = HIV

2017-08-11 12:58:01 UTC  

HAVING VISITED PARTS OF EUROPE WITH HIGH TRUST: EVERYTHING HAS A PLACE, AND SO YOU CAN TELL AT A GLANCE WHAT IS NORMAL

2017-08-11 14:41:00 UTC  
2017-08-11 14:41:08 UTC  

Parts I mean

2017-08-11 14:43:44 UTC  

@fallot WESTERN EUROPE, BUT 30 YEARS AGO

2017-08-11 14:43:52 UTC  

ALSO VISITED EAST GERMANY

2017-08-11 14:44:03 UTC  

AND PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN EUROPE, NOTABLY YUGOSLAVIA

2017-08-11 14:44:07 UTC  

WHICH I LIKED

2017-08-11 14:44:13 UTC  

VERY DECENT PLACE

2017-08-11 14:57:21 UTC  

When I was about 17 my whole family visited London

2017-08-11 14:58:00 UTC  

As we were leaving my brother here due to him having a bad environment and circle of friends back home.

2017-08-11 14:58:10 UTC  

We stayed for 2 weeks

2017-08-11 14:58:33 UTC  

It was the first time I had ever come to the west despite being born in the UK

2017-08-11 14:58:44 UTC  

I had no memories of my time there

2017-08-11 14:59:00 UTC  

What I remember then at 17, I am now 32

2017-08-11 14:59:08 UTC  

Was how white London was

2017-08-11 14:59:23 UTC  

And how it had a certain ambience of its own

2017-08-11 14:59:45 UTC  

I returned to London in 2011. Again for 2 weeks.

2017-08-11 14:59:51 UTC  

Wildly different

2017-08-11 15:00:27 UTC  

Even in the nicer places, it was obvious white people were not as ubiquitous as they were even a few short years ago

2017-08-11 15:01:08 UTC  

My point is that this is a level of change that would have caused an unprecedented pushback most other places in the world

2017-08-11 15:01:28 UTC  

Here it seems to have occured without anyone noticing or caring

2017-08-11 15:15:31 UTC  

THE ABSENCE OF CULTURE IS EASILY PERCEIVED

2017-08-11 15:15:43 UTC  

I WENT FROM A MINORITY MAJORITY CITY TO OLD EUROPE

2017-08-11 15:15:46 UTC  

AND SAW WHAT WE HAD LOST

2017-08-11 15:15:58 UTC  

THERE IS MORE TRUST, SURE, BUT MOSTLY MORE ORDER, RHYTHM AND BALANCE

2017-08-11 15:16:04 UTC  

EVERYTHING IS JUST MORE RELAXED AND LESS HOSTILE

2017-08-11 15:23:34 UTC  

relaxed and less hostile is probably it

2017-08-11 15:23:39 UTC  

its not just trust, you're quite right

2017-08-11 15:24:09 UTC  

you can have a cohesive culture populated by subgroups, you have that anyway simply due to class

2017-08-11 15:24:48 UTC  

is the basic attitude open (not just polite, or not even polite) or cut-off?

2017-08-11 15:25:43 UTC  

by this bar some arab countries are not cohesive at all, while others are

2017-08-11 15:25:59 UTC  

Egypt would be fine, but not say Qatar