And it is, but you'll come to appreciate that.

yeah but immolation is actually super straightforward

No?

Immolation is one of the least straightforward bands.

unlike say morbid angel or suffocation or at the gates

in terms of structure, it is striaghtforward

like a heavy metal band

or metallica

the riffing and rhythms are different

but they keep the early metallica speed metal overall structure

as do mayhem

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The structure of Burn with Jesus(went through it quickly, there might be mistakes): A1->A2->B1->B2->C->D->B1->B2->C->E->F->G->H->G->E->F->G->C->D->I

Not heavy metal structure, or straightforward

The most straightforward song in the album, I Feel Nothing: A->B->C1->C2->D->C1->C2->E->B->F->G1->G2->F->G1->G2->A->B->E

I'm liking it

I'm listening to it now as well, @UOC

I dunno anything about Alabama candidates

I was worried I wouldn't like it because some tech death loses the music for me but this is great

This isn't tech death

It's just technical

Like suffocation is technical

Yeah

I'm just saying that there is a risk that musicality is sacrificed for innovation or complexity or whatever

which I end up being interested in but not enjoying much musically

here in after the song is tight

I can't think of examples of bands being hurt by technicality.

The tech death bands say nothing complicatedly.

If you subtract their complexity from them, you would end up with nothing still.

well if it's good it doesn't suffer from being technical

Actually "technical" is a horrible descriptor.

but if it's bad, technicality won't save it for me

It doesn't explain anything important.

It would make sense to group chicken statues with other chicken statues, and cow statues with cow statues.

But not statues made with chisels with other statues made with chisels, and statues made with hammer and nail with statues made with hammer and nail.

Technical = this music is hard to play.

So what?

well if i were going to try to break what I mean down, I mean something like the use of more complex musical ideas and structures like atypical time sigs / changing time sigs; music composed in rare modes or even more esoteric composition approaches like chromaticism or stochastic shit influenced by classical guys like Cage or Penderecki or Stockhausen; music that abandons the pop/rock structure and more traditional classical structures

nothing is wrong with any of that

but many attempts to explore music through those means fail

these guys do some of this