Message from @fallot

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2017-08-13 01:54:21 UTC  

he didn't start out a general of anything

2017-08-13 01:54:50 UTC  

his wife had a trading business he ran

2017-08-13 01:55:10 UTC  

did he eventually lead bands of men into battle ?

2017-08-13 01:55:15 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-13 01:55:33 UTC  

in those battles, what were his tactics ?

2017-08-13 01:55:40 UTC  

kill the other side, don't die

2017-08-13 01:56:10 UTC  

did he spare non-combatants ?

2017-08-13 01:56:33 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-13 01:57:05 UTC  

which is pretty exceptional behaviour by the way

2017-08-13 01:57:11 UTC  

did he take them prisoner ?

2017-08-13 01:57:21 UTC  

some prisoner, some not, depends on what they were

2017-08-13 01:57:30 UTC  

some slaves

2017-08-13 01:58:15 UTC  

how did he treat his slaves ?

2017-08-13 01:58:24 UTC  

pretty good

2017-08-13 02:00:57 UTC  

what were his views on those who would not join him ?

2017-08-13 02:01:33 UTC  

the christians and the jews, people of God who had strayed somewhat

2017-08-13 02:01:53 UTC  

others, if they fought him they were enemies

2017-08-13 02:02:02 UTC  

there was an initial consolidation of arabia

2017-08-13 02:04:42 UTC  

what was his views on wives ?

2017-08-13 02:04:53 UTC  

wives are good

2017-08-13 02:05:00 UTC  

one should marry

2017-08-13 02:05:18 UTC  

up to four, but with the caveat that all must be treated equally

2017-08-13 02:05:42 UTC  

and at what age should a wife be ?

2017-08-13 02:05:46 UTC  

What would Germanic heathens be

2017-08-13 02:05:57 UTC  

the only proof is for whenever they are sexually mature

2017-08-13 02:05:58 UTC  

If Muhammed had encountered them

2017-08-13 02:06:21 UTC  

there are various arguments about whether his youngest wife was 9 or 14 or whatever

2017-08-13 02:06:25 UTC  

but the only consistent thing is

2017-08-13 02:06:27 UTC  

sexual maturity

2017-08-13 02:06:53 UTC  

@devolved , probably Muslim

2017-08-13 02:06:57 UTC  

like Persians

2017-08-13 02:07:21 UTC  

according to my understanding of the kuran, aisha was 6 at the time of the marriage ceremony, and was 9 when tmohammed and aisha finally slept together

2017-08-13 02:07:30 UTC  

see its stuff like that

2017-08-13 02:07:34 UTC  

that reveals your total lack of knowledge

2017-08-13 02:07:38 UTC  

none of that is in the quran

2017-08-13 02:08:13 UTC  

by saying that, I'm not disputing the ages etc. you mention

2017-08-13 02:08:19 UTC  

I mean would they be kaffir

2017-08-13 02:08:22 UTC  

but its not in the quran, simple as, it would be odd if that was in the book

2017-08-13 02:08:29 UTC  

I don't know @devolved

2017-08-13 02:08:33 UTC  

yes?

2017-08-13 02:09:18 UTC  

these ages are drawn from various traditions about muhammad's life by various people