we shall then, not discuss the kuran, or islam

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we can discuss it

but bring some material criticisms

you wish for facts ?

not quite what I said, but I guess?

something to substantiate what you said is what I mean

"the quran is like a mirror image of the bible"

etc. etc.

also, comparisons to various figures from history regarding bloodthirstiness etc.

Muhammad is a well studied figure

as much as he can be studied considering the sources

was he, or was he not, a general of his tribe ?

What's wrong with warlords

Don't be a faggot

he didn't start out a general of anything

his wife had a trading business he ran

did he eventually lead bands of men into battle ?

yeah

in those battles, what were his tactics ?

kill the other side, don't die

did he spare non-combatants ?

yeah

which is pretty exceptional behaviour by the way

did he take them prisoner ?

some prisoner, some not, depends on what they were

some slaves

how did he treat his slaves ?

pretty good

what were his views on those who would not join him ?

the christians and the jews, people of God who had strayed somewhat

others, if they fought him they were enemies

there was an initial consolidation of arabia

what was his views on wives ?

wives are good

one should marry

up to four, but with the caveat that all must be treated equally

and at what age should a wife be ?

What would Germanic heathens be

the only proof is for whenever they are sexually mature

If Muhammed had encountered them