Message from @devolved
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plus you seem to have some general ideas
about what's good and what's nice and what's acceptable
that are messed up, but lets not get into those
too much
the quran is freely available to read online
very well
we shall then, not discuss the kuran, or islam
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we can discuss it
but bring some material criticisms
you wish for facts ?
not quite what I said, but I guess?
something to substantiate what you said is what I mean
"the quran is like a mirror image of the bible"
etc. etc.
also, comparisons to various figures from history regarding bloodthirstiness etc.
Muhammad is a well studied figure
as much as he can be studied considering the sources
was he, or was he not, a general of his tribe ?
What's wrong with warlords
he didn't start out a general of anything
his wife had a trading business he ran
did he eventually lead bands of men into battle ?
yeah
in those battles, what were his tactics ?
kill the other side, don't die
did he spare non-combatants ?
yeah
which is pretty exceptional behaviour by the way
did he take them prisoner ?
some prisoner, some not, depends on what they were
some slaves
how did he treat his slaves ?
pretty good
what were his views on those who would not join him ?
the christians and the jews, people of God who had strayed somewhat
others, if they fought him they were enemies
there was an initial consolidation of arabia
what was his views on wives ?
wives are good