Message from @Deleted User 57835c2c

Discord ID: 348497862969131018


2017-08-19 16:04:44 UTC  

yeah, that's right, and since words are just placeholders for meanings

2017-08-19 16:04:44 UTC  

you however have a personal concept of the logical relations of a given word, then do not communicate those relations and then split hairs after the miscommunciation occurs

2017-08-19 16:04:50 UTC  

you've got to talk about the other person's meanings

2017-08-19 16:04:53 UTC  

not just the words used

2017-08-19 16:04:55 UTC  

yes but you never do that

2017-08-19 16:05:04 UTC  

you just insist the word really means what you think it means, not what the other person says it means

2017-08-19 16:05:06 UTC  

I always do it

2017-08-19 16:05:13 UTC  

if you dont realize the implications of your own statements

2017-08-19 16:05:15 UTC  

"hate doesn't mean what you mean, it really means what I mean"

2017-08-19 16:05:21 UTC  

I'll try and show them to you

2017-08-19 16:05:24 UTC  

I do the real version of what you think you do

2017-08-19 16:05:30 UTC  

that's why it's apparent to me that you do not do it

2017-08-19 16:05:35 UTC  

hate means hate, its really simple

2017-08-19 16:05:39 UTC  

but sometimes when people say hate

2017-08-19 16:05:41 UTC  

they dont mean hate

2017-08-19 16:05:41 UTC  

so what is hate?

2017-08-19 16:05:44 UTC  

they mean "things I dont like"

2017-08-19 16:05:49 UTC  

hate is an emotion

2017-08-19 16:05:57 UTC  

and what is that emotion?

2017-08-19 16:05:57 UTC  

you described it aptly

2017-08-19 16:06:05 UTC  

okay, so what is your use of the word hate

2017-08-19 16:06:11 UTC  

the same as that

2017-08-19 16:06:20 UTC  

well, two things

2017-08-19 16:06:25 UTC  

no, three

2017-08-19 16:06:46 UTC  

1. For clarity, it's useful to assign a temporary secondary title to a concept during these talks, to clarify which version you mean

2017-08-19 16:06:56 UTC  

2. People cannot really control what they feel that much

2017-08-19 16:06:58 UTC  

I never mentioned any other version

2017-08-19 16:07:03 UTC  

I just said

2017-08-19 16:07:04 UTC  

there's hate

2017-08-19 16:07:05 UTC  

so saying "feeling hatred is evil" is not really doing anything

2017-08-19 16:07:11 UTC  

and there's what people call hate, society calls hate

2017-08-19 16:07:15 UTC  

which isn't really hate at all

2017-08-19 16:07:19 UTC  

because its not an emotion

2017-08-19 16:07:26 UTC  

okay, so define the two or clarify their differences

2017-08-19 16:07:27 UTC  

and anything like that I embrace

2017-08-19 16:07:32 UTC  

because those are lies

2017-08-19 16:07:40 UTC  

well neat, but how do the two differ

2017-08-19 16:07:41 UTC  

specify

2017-08-19 16:07:43 UTC  

okay, sure

2017-08-19 16:07:50 UTC  

building a wall between america and mexico

2017-08-19 16:07:50 UTC  

is hate