Message from @Deleted User 57835c2c

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2017-08-19 16:05:49 UTC  

hate is an emotion

2017-08-19 16:05:57 UTC  

and what is that emotion?

2017-08-19 16:05:57 UTC  

you described it aptly

2017-08-19 16:06:05 UTC  

okay, so what is your use of the word hate

2017-08-19 16:06:11 UTC  

the same as that

2017-08-19 16:06:20 UTC  

well, two things

2017-08-19 16:06:25 UTC  

no, three

2017-08-19 16:06:46 UTC  

1. For clarity, it's useful to assign a temporary secondary title to a concept during these talks, to clarify which version you mean

2017-08-19 16:06:56 UTC  

2. People cannot really control what they feel that much

2017-08-19 16:06:58 UTC  

I never mentioned any other version

2017-08-19 16:07:03 UTC  

I just said

2017-08-19 16:07:04 UTC  

there's hate

2017-08-19 16:07:05 UTC  

so saying "feeling hatred is evil" is not really doing anything

2017-08-19 16:07:11 UTC  

and there's what people call hate, society calls hate

2017-08-19 16:07:15 UTC  

which isn't really hate at all

2017-08-19 16:07:19 UTC  

because its not an emotion

2017-08-19 16:07:26 UTC  

okay, so define the two or clarify their differences

2017-08-19 16:07:27 UTC  

and anything like that I embrace

2017-08-19 16:07:32 UTC  

because those are lies

2017-08-19 16:07:40 UTC  

well neat, but how do the two differ

2017-08-19 16:07:41 UTC  

specify

2017-08-19 16:07:43 UTC  

okay, sure

2017-08-19 16:07:50 UTC  

building a wall between america and mexico

2017-08-19 16:07:50 UTC  

is hate

2017-08-19 16:07:55 UTC  

because of taking action?

2017-08-19 16:07:57 UTC  

(no it isnt hate)

2017-08-19 16:08:09 UTC  

I mean, people describe such things with these slogans

2017-08-19 16:08:09 UTC  

okay, so this is the point where you better assign two distinct labels so I know what you mean

2017-08-19 16:08:13 UTC  

"X is hate"

2017-08-19 16:08:21 UTC  

"global warming is hate"

2017-08-19 16:08:29 UTC  

but none of these things are hate

2017-08-19 16:08:31 UTC  

hate is what you said it is

2017-08-19 16:08:36 UTC  

which I entirely agree with

2017-08-19 16:08:39 UTC  

and that thing which you said it is

2017-08-19 16:08:41 UTC  

its a bad thing

2017-08-19 16:08:48 UTC  

okay, so are you saying building a wall is or isn't hate?

2017-08-19 16:08:53 UTC  

isn't

2017-08-19 16:09:11 UTC  

so hate = feeling the emotion, taking action against is something different though society conflates?

2017-08-19 16:09:11 UTC  

hate is hate, building a wall is building a wall

2017-08-19 16:09:19 UTC  

love is love, building a wall is building a wall

2017-08-19 16:09:21 UTC  

america building a wall, while it can be hateful, is also a pragmatic thing to try to do, in the face of mexico's policy of reconquista