a word has a weight yeah?

it carries a set of ideas with it

but they are your own personal definitions and you do not clearly explain/define them

but when a person uses a word

and presume their definitions are known to your audience

they mean some ideas within that set

not all of them

I don't think its even possible for me to hate someone I don't know

all words are simply variables, placeholders for a meaning that is defined by a logical relation. If we replaced the word Discord with Fartmongler every time it was used, the word would not substantially change, because it's the logical relations that define the meaning, not the word itself

or for anyone really

they can say they hate them

yeah, that's right, and since words are just placeholders for meanings

you however have a personal concept of the logical relations of a given word, then do not communicate those relations and then split hairs after the miscommunciation occurs

you've got to talk about the other person's meanings

not just the words used

yes but you never do that

you just insist the word really means what you think it means, not what the other person says it means

I always do it

if you dont realize the implications of your own statements

"hate doesn't mean what you mean, it really means what I mean"

I'll try and show them to you

I do the real version of what you think you do

that's why it's apparent to me that you do not do it

hate means hate, its really simple

but sometimes when people say hate

they dont mean hate

so what is hate?

they mean "things I dont like"

hate is an emotion

and what is that emotion?

you described it aptly

okay, so what is your use of the word hate

the same as that

well, two things

no, three

1. For clarity, it's useful to assign a temporary secondary title to a concept during these talks, to clarify which version you mean

2. People cannot really control what they feel that much

I never mentioned any other version

I just said

there's hate

so saying "feeling hatred is evil" is not really doing anything