Message from @fallot
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@Deleted User 57835c2c on the contrary, I am very particular about what words mean
a word has a weight yeah?
it carries a set of ideas with it
but they are your own personal definitions and you do not clearly explain/define them
but when a person uses a word
and presume their definitions are known to your audience
they mean some ideas within that set
not all of them
I don't think its even possible for me to hate someone I don't know
all words are simply variables, placeholders for a meaning that is defined by a logical relation. If we replaced the word Discord with Fartmongler every time it was used, the word would not substantially change, because it's the logical relations that define the meaning, not the word itself
or for anyone really
they can say they hate them
yeah, that's right, and since words are just placeholders for meanings
you however have a personal concept of the logical relations of a given word, then do not communicate those relations and then split hairs after the miscommunciation occurs
you've got to talk about the other person's meanings
not just the words used
yes but you never do that
you just insist the word really means what you think it means, not what the other person says it means
if you dont realize the implications of your own statements
"hate doesn't mean what you mean, it really means what I mean"
I'll try and show them to you
I do the real version of what you think you do
that's why it's apparent to me that you do not do it
hate means hate, its really simple
but sometimes when people say hate
they dont mean hate
so what is hate?
they mean "things I dont like"
hate is an emotion
and what is that emotion?
you described it aptly
okay, so what is your use of the word hate
the same as that
well, two things
no, three
1. For clarity, it's useful to assign a temporary secondary title to a concept during these talks, to clarify which version you mean
2. People cannot really control what they feel that much
I never mentioned any other version