Message from @Jigsaw
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Nazism is an atheistic ideology
It's not.
yes it is, you cannot be a Nazi and a Christian for instance
It requires faith.
freethinking movements, atheism etc. were linked to communism
but what is the nazi faith?
Keep in mind, National Socialist idealogy originates from Volkisch belief and esotericsm.
originates from, sure
just like a lot of modern liberalism originates from protestant christianity
understand @Jigsaw that he does not recognize anything non-abrahamic as a religion
wrong
its really simple, adhere to a true faith (any historical faith)
he essentially sees nazism as just man's pride attempting to reach for heaven without god's sanction, another tower of babel
and you are religious
that's about right
its a falsely utopian ideology just like communism
Nazism doesn't really stand for anything, it stands against some bad things
but in itself, its not really anything except common sense, false solidarity, and control
keep in mind also that fallot is a pakistani muslim
it would have inevitably devolved into totalitarianism
I'd say an esoteric belief in a greater being or beings is the ''National Socialist religion'', a return to Germanic paganism in a way, at least it was for Himmler and Rosenberg.
they did not TRULY adhere to these though
it wasn't germanic paganism, it was aryan paganism
did they have the same mindset as the pagans they larped?
that's an important distinction to make
no, it was an original occultist ritualistic thing
more akin to freemasonry than any pagan belief
they did something much like me, looking into aryan origins and reading the books
Rosenberg? Quite sure he did, have you read 'Myth of the 20'th Century'?
Goes over his belief pretty well, so far at least, haven't finished it.
As for Hitler, I'm certain he didn't adhere to any specific branch of Christian faith, but he belived in a single god or all powerful figure that he had a deep faith in.
Some evidence would lead me to believe this 'providence' as he often reffered to it as, was Wotan.
But nothing can be surely said.
I haven't gotten much out of nordic paganism, personally
I read the sagas of the icelanders and it was pretty good, but the actual norse religion hasn't done much for me
I identify as a Christian, mainly out of a deep faith in a single higher figure that I'm certain is there, and simply that faith is a must as a means of continuing life with some kind of purpose.
Paganism for me, is something that is dead, I don't say this to offend Pagans, and I do have an interest in it, but I simply believe it can never be relevent on a major scale again.
even pagan gurus like varg do not actually believe in it
it's literal larping
that doesn't make it bad but it makes it more of a reenactment exercise than a religion
I respect it, but it's long been dead, and you're right when it comes to the LARP, the only active 'pagan' religion would be Wicca, which is simply Witchcraft and filled with deviant trash.