Jigsaw

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2017-07-13 05:48:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

Brought here by @deactivated., is this the only text channel at the moment?

2017-07-13 06:13:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

Alright.

2017-08-26 17:35:49 UTC [Realism #general]  

Nice Hellsing profile picture you got there.

2017-08-26 17:37:02 UTC [Realism #general]  

I liked Stormfront.

2017-08-26 17:37:13 UTC [Realism #general]  

Posted and lurked there often at a point.

2017-08-26 17:37:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

It was better then the DailyStormer.

2017-08-26 17:38:51 UTC [Realism #general]  

Eh, Anglin is funny, thats honestly it. Stormfront dealt with some serious topics and had a bit more of a community despite looking a site from 2006.

2017-08-26 17:39:10 UTC [Realism #general]  

Also, probably a better forum.

2017-08-26 17:40:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

True, I wonder if they'll take down IronMarch.

2017-08-26 17:41:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

Maybe, but some of the posts were good, I used to be active in the Youth section sometimes.

2017-08-26 17:43:17 UTC [Realism #general]  

lol, true I guess, but I remember some very good posts, one from a former American Nazi Party member and one from someone who was in some National Socialist Youth organization that went full LARP with uniforms and flags.

2017-08-26 17:43:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

God damn right he was.

2017-08-26 17:44:11 UTC [Realism #general]  

I can't stand the fuckers who go around saying he was a CIA shill with no evidence to support it.

2017-08-26 17:45:24 UTC [Realism #general]  

Exactly, he cared about as being shocking as possible, exact opposite of the retards who want to appeal to the modern left for some reason.

2017-08-26 17:46:26 UTC [Realism #general]  

The American Nazi Party was the most successful National Socialist movement in the U.S.A ever, thats pretty undisputed, thats why (((they))) killed him.

2017-08-26 17:47:24 UTC [Realism #general]  

Same thing happened to Malcom X, the biggest fear of the kikes is that the white man and the black man work together for their racial interests.

2017-08-26 17:48:32 UTC [Realism #general]  

Honestly, I think the modern Alt-Right should work with Black Nationalist organizations, much more effective.

2017-08-26 17:48:45 UTC [Realism #general]  

Not to mention it scares the establishment.

2017-08-26 17:49:06 UTC [Realism #general]  

If we're going to get anywhere, It must occur.

2017-08-26 17:49:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

Thoughts on David Duke, btw?

2017-08-26 17:50:30 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm speaking in terms of numbers, publicity and actual possibility of obtaining some form of power when I call the ANP/NSWPP successful.

2017-08-26 17:51:04 UTC [Realism #general]  

The problem is, after Rockwells death, the entire thing fell apart.

2017-08-26 17:51:33 UTC [Realism #general]  

Same with the National Alliance and Doctor Pierce.

2017-08-26 17:52:50 UTC [Realism #general]  

Rockwell being a 'clown' was all part of a shock act in order to gain numbers and establish a basis for an actual movement, which he did, and got killed for it in 1967.

2017-08-26 17:53:18 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm not saying he didn't fail, he did, and so did Hitler, and Pierce.

2017-08-26 17:53:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

He failed due to the war, he lost.

2017-08-26 17:54:55 UTC [Realism #general]  

Yet, in the end, he didn't succeed, despite everything he failed, Hitler lost.

2017-08-26 17:55:27 UTC [Realism #general]  

fallot, where do you stand politically?

2017-08-26 17:56:25 UTC [Realism #general]  

We have some differing opinions on Hitler here.

2017-08-26 17:58:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

You could argue Hitler was much more beneficial to the Germans then Stalin was, though he did lead them to destruction.

2017-08-26 17:58:39 UTC [Realism #general]  

Hitler wasn't godless, not certain he was a Christian, but he had a deep spirituality and belief in a higher being.

2017-08-26 17:59:01 UTC [Realism #general]  

Stalin was openly an Athiest.

2017-08-26 18:00:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

He tried to obtain a gun permit from the Virginia state, mysteriously enough, they never responded.

2017-08-26 18:00:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

This was after the first attempt made on his life, which he survived.

2017-08-26 18:01:10 UTC [Realism #general]  

And tried to chase down and kick the shit out of the attempted assassin, but failed.

2017-08-26 18:01:50 UTC [Realism #general]  

No, it was a gun, believe he missed.

2017-08-26 18:02:35 UTC [Realism #general]  

Thoughts on Richard Spencer?

2017-08-26 18:03:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

You say Nazism is godless, yet it requires spiritual belief.

2017-08-26 18:03:30 UTC [Realism #general]  

Call it what you will, it's required.

2017-08-26 18:03:41 UTC [Realism #general]  

It's known Hitler and the Pagan LARP'er Himmler, detested Athiesm.

2017-08-26 18:03:59 UTC [Realism #general]  

Athiests were kicked out of the movement, this is a fact.

2017-08-26 18:04:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

Hitler and Himmler frequently cited some kind of 'providence'.

2017-08-26 18:04:24 UTC [Realism #general]  

Not to mention SS rituals.

2017-08-26 18:04:37 UTC [Realism #general]  

Which had a belief in higher beings.

2017-08-26 18:05:08 UTC [Realism #general]  

It's not.

2017-08-26 18:05:38 UTC [Realism #general]  

It requires faith.

2017-08-26 18:06:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

Keep in mind, National Socialist idealogy originates from Volkisch belief and esotericsm.

2017-08-26 18:08:50 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'd say an esoteric belief in a greater being or beings is the ''National Socialist religion'', a return to Germanic paganism in a way, at least it was for Himmler and Rosenberg.

2017-08-26 18:09:59 UTC [Realism #general]  

Rosenberg? Quite sure he did, have you read 'Myth of the 20'th Century'?

2017-08-26 18:10:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

Goes over his belief pretty well, so far at least, haven't finished it.

2017-08-26 18:10:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

As for Hitler, I'm certain he didn't adhere to any specific branch of Christian faith, but he belived in a single god or all powerful figure that he had a deep faith in.

2017-08-26 18:11:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

Some evidence would lead me to believe this 'providence' as he often reffered to it as, was Wotan.

2017-08-26 18:11:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

But nothing can be surely said.

2017-08-26 18:15:03 UTC [Realism #general]  

I identify as a Christian, mainly out of a deep faith in a single higher figure that I'm certain is there, and simply that faith is a must as a means of continuing life with some kind of purpose.

2017-08-26 18:16:00 UTC [Realism #general]  

Paganism for me, is something that is dead, I don't say this to offend Pagans, and I do have an interest in it, but I simply believe it can never be relevent on a major scale again.

2017-08-26 18:17:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

I respect it, but it's long been dead, and you're right when it comes to the LARP, the only active 'pagan' religion would be Wicca, which is simply Witchcraft and filled with deviant trash.

2017-08-26 18:19:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

Paganism never evolved, It's an ancient religion, there is no real way you can emulate it in the modern day.

2017-08-26 18:20:11 UTC [Realism #general]  

As you said, no one thinks Odin will take them to Valhalla.

2017-08-26 18:20:58 UTC [Realism #general]  

Most of the Nordic images used by the Nazis were out of the sake of tradition, since Paganism is deeply rooted in German myth.

2017-08-26 18:21:16 UTC [Realism #general]  

Not out of a genuine belief in the old gods.

2017-08-26 18:23:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

Not wrong, the swastika is an ancient symbol used by various cultures, the 'India' thing is a meme as it was also used by Germanics as a symbol of Thor and even Wotan.

2017-08-26 18:23:37 UTC [Realism #general]  

It wasn't exclusively Hindu.

2017-08-26 18:24:28 UTC [Realism #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/351069402411565067/europe_sweden_thor_painting_2.jpg

2017-08-26 18:24:34 UTC [Realism #general]  

From a painting of Thor.

2017-08-26 18:26:13 UTC [Realism #general]  

The Hindu meme is overused, Sullen is correct.

2017-08-26 18:26:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

Hitler used it due to it's significance to Germany.

2017-08-26 18:26:49 UTC [Realism #general]  

But,

2017-08-26 18:26:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

It ranges from all over the world.

2017-08-26 18:29:32 UTC [Realism #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/351070681250791424/Capture.JPG

2017-08-26 18:34:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

Except they don't believe in race.

2017-08-26 18:34:55 UTC [Realism #general]  

Eugenics is racial elevation.

2017-08-26 18:38:26 UTC [Realism #general]  

Race > Nation.

2017-08-26 18:39:26 UTC [Realism #general]  

The state is a means to an end for the race, this was Hitler's philosophy on the importance of the state.

2017-08-26 18:57:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/351077823907233793/14980095874021.gif

2017-08-26 19:00:34 UTC [Realism #general]  

But wasn't Hitler's idea of 'Blood and Soil' meant to be the exact opposite of Jewish nomadism? Having no real home and being leeches?

2017-08-26 19:04:04 UTC [Realism #general]  

Not to deviate from the topic of discussion, but if Hitler somehow ressurected what do you believe would happen?

2017-08-26 19:04:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

Stupid question, but It's been on my mind.

2017-08-26 19:05:10 UTC [Realism #general]  

Oh damn, you like Carnivore?

2017-08-26 19:05:38 UTC [Realism #general]  

Any other of Peter Steele's work?

2017-08-26 19:05:51 UTC [Realism #general]  

He was the lead for the band.

2017-08-26 19:06:16 UTC [Realism #general]  

Singer for the much more successful Type O Negative, which I guess is an ok band.

2017-08-26 19:07:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

I think Type O is alright, some tracks are great, but after I discovered Carnivore, I liked it a lot more, probably Peter's best work.

2017-08-26 19:08:53 UTC [Realism #general]  

Peter also made this flag.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/351080581469306881/Vinland_flag.svg.png

2017-08-26 19:09:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

Not very original, but Vinnland was a nice idea.

2017-08-26 19:09:35 UTC [Realism #general]  

He was a strange man.

2017-08-26 19:09:49 UTC [Realism #general]  

Good voice though, for the most part.

2017-08-26 19:14:11 UTC [Realism #general]  

Definitely, I'm not sure where Steele stood politically, lots of talk saying he was a Nazi sympathizer to a degree, but seeing as lots of the things he did would be frowned upon by most WN organizations, I doubt it.

2017-08-26 19:15:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

In the ordinary white dude?

2017-08-26 19:15:40 UTC [Realism #general]  

Well, actually, you'd be right with that.

2017-08-26 19:25:08 UTC [Realism #general]  

I admit that I became a self identified White Nationalist mainly as you said, out of a place of confusion and dissatisfaction with the modern world, and after seeing establishment 'right wing' politics wasn't standing for what I thought was important.

2017-08-26 19:25:41 UTC [Realism #general]  

Which was mainly, conservation of tradition, culture and importantly race.

2017-08-26 19:27:32 UTC [Realism #general]  

I've looked for that, of course there's the establishment left, conspiracies involving lizard people and secret societies, but lots of it seems to point to the International financers, or more importantly what we'd call the Jews.

2017-08-26 19:29:28 UTC [Realism #general]  

I wouldn't call myself racist in the means of saying 'I hate every single nigger because he is a nigger.', but more so because I simply think my country should be for its people and not others, if I'm a racist for believing in inherant white supremacy in a white country as I believe it should be, then so be it.

2017-08-26 19:32:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

I suppose you'd be right, I don't believe some potbelly trailer trash is superior to an educated and physically fit black man simply because he has what could be considered 'Aryan genes'. I'd much rather associate and discuss with the black man in that scenario.

2017-08-26 19:34:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

Hitler is at fault for losing the war and bringing us to where we are today, Hitler in hindu terms, should've ended the Kali Yuga and brought upon a new age, but he failed and lead us to an even worse state,

2017-08-26 19:35:35 UTC [Realism #general]  

I believe he would've had good relations with the Chinese, assuming Japan didn't destroy them.

2017-08-26 19:37:07 UTC [Realism #general]  

Hitler respected all Asian cultures, and saw them as honorary Aryan, including the Chinese AND Japanese, before he solidifed relations with Japan, he also had them with the Nationalist Chinese.

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