Message from @fallot

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2017-08-26 18:36:51 UTC  

you can listen or not listen

2017-08-26 18:36:56 UTC  

I've met pakistanis with aryan enough features and good enough qualities that I would consider them peers

2017-08-26 18:37:04 UTC  

but they are not representative

2017-08-26 18:37:08 UTC  

i agree, eugenics, especially positive eugenics, is basic maintenance of a culture /civilization

2017-08-26 18:37:26 UTC  

I'd argue the negative eugenics are the important part (the sterilizing, aborting etc)

2017-08-26 18:37:28 UTC  

the indian subcontinent is an extremely stratified place

2017-08-26 18:37:42 UTC  

nation as understood in modern times

2017-08-26 18:37:44 UTC  

isn't important to me

2017-08-26 18:37:50 UTC  

my blood and my culture is

2017-08-26 18:38:26 UTC  

Race > Nation.

2017-08-26 18:38:40 UTC  

nation is actually likely to trump race

2017-08-26 18:38:44 UTC  

in hearts and minds

2017-08-26 18:38:51 UTC  

you can't make people care about their race

2017-08-26 18:38:55 UTC  

my blood is not my race

2017-08-26 18:38:57 UTC  

they are my close kin

2017-08-26 18:39:17 UTC  

a brit and a czech are not strongly united by race

2017-08-26 18:39:26 UTC  

The state is a means to an end for the race, this was Hitler's philosophy on the importance of the state.

2017-08-26 18:39:29 UTC  

that's because they are morons who lack tribal instinct

2017-08-26 18:39:37 UTC  

no, because they have tribal instinct

2017-08-26 18:39:43 UTC  

how is a czech the tribesman of a brit

2017-08-26 18:39:50 UTC  

this is a modern ideology

2017-08-26 18:39:52 UTC  

if they're surrounded by bantu, they are

2017-08-26 18:39:54 UTC  

this understanding of "white race"

2017-08-26 18:40:16 UTC  

the czechs I have met have been fine people

2017-08-26 18:40:23 UTC  

certainly

2017-08-26 18:40:23 UTC  

Nation = blood and ancestry.

2017-08-26 18:40:33 UTC  

no, nation is not reducible to blood

2017-08-26 18:40:36 UTC  

Race is an extension of that.

2017-08-26 18:40:39 UTC  

I do not care about nation either

2017-08-26 18:40:43 UTC  

that's where prozak and I differ

2017-08-26 18:40:45 UTC  

race is also not reducible to blood

2017-08-26 18:40:57 UTC  

How is it not?

2017-08-26 18:41:00 UTC  

since I know what an aryan really is, I don't distinguish between an aryan german, an aryan ukrainian, or an aryan living in south america

2017-08-26 18:41:07 UTC  

to me they are all just aryans

2017-08-26 18:41:16 UTC  

because the edges are fuzzy, the liberal critique of biological race is correct

2017-08-26 18:41:29 UTC  

race is not a distinct material category, but a social construction that encompasses blood and culture

2017-08-26 18:41:47 UTC  

which is why you can split slavs and other whites with the word race and still feel the usage was correct

2017-08-26 18:42:46 UTC  

is there such a thing as whiteness, outside blood?

2017-08-26 18:42:50 UTC  

if there is, race must be more than blood

2017-08-26 18:45:01 UTC  

and the way I see it, the "aryan" part is the important part, not their local culture or whatever

2017-08-26 18:45:17 UTC  

I don't care what language an aryan speaks or what their national dish is, I care about their human quality