Message from @amarkoff

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2017-08-29 18:00:17 UTC  

BOLSHEVISM IS WHAT YOU GET WITH DEMOCRACY

2017-08-29 18:00:19 UTC  

He lifted Russia out of the feudalist state of affairs from before the revolution. Stalin created a new hierarchy. One that was sadly destroyed by the likes of Khrushchev.

2017-08-29 18:00:23 UTC  

PEOPLE LOVE THE IDEA OF PACIFISM AND FREE SHIT

2017-08-29 18:00:28 UTC  

IT ENDS BADLY EVERY TIME

2017-08-29 18:00:31 UTC  

STALIN WAS LIKE THE KHAN

2017-08-29 18:00:31 UTC  

Bolshevism was strongly anti-pacifist

2017-08-29 18:00:39 UTC  

Indeed.

2017-08-29 18:00:42 UTC  

A WINNER AT FIRST, BUT THEN COULD NOT MAKE A STABLE SOCIETY

2017-08-29 18:00:45 UTC  

INTERNAL PACIFISM

2017-08-29 18:00:49 UTC  

Sadly this is true.

2017-08-29 18:00:52 UTC  

"STOP STRUGGLING FOR MONEY AND POWER, WE ARE ALL EQUAL"

2017-08-29 18:00:56 UTC  

THAT IS WHY IT IS UNSTABLE

2017-08-29 18:01:00 UTC  

Ahh understood

2017-08-29 18:01:01 UTC  

EGALITARIANISM IS A VARIETY OF PACIFISM

2017-08-29 18:01:10 UTC  

WHEREAS HERE, WE PUT THE FIST BACK INTO PACIFISTS

2017-08-29 18:01:13 UTC  

I am still not clear on how stalinist national bolshevism is significantly different. At a glance it seems like tacking "Stalinist" onto "National bolshevism" is a patch to make inherently unworkable software operable, but please continue

2017-08-29 18:01:13 UTC  

This is because he was succeeded by a reformer and revisionist.

2017-08-29 18:01:26 UTC  
2017-08-29 18:01:29 UTC  

HE DID NOTHING NEW

2017-08-29 18:01:33 UTC  

JUST MAKE IT WORK IN A MILITARY STYLE

2017-08-29 18:01:44 UTC  

Stalin is what national bolsheviks want to go back to.

2017-08-29 18:01:51 UTC  

and what is that exactly

2017-08-29 18:02:01 UTC  

it's not marxism, it's just "in name only," so what to an outsider is it

2017-08-29 18:02:40 UTC  

strong state? weak state? what policies? what economics? who could enter? what was legal or illegal? I don't need a book on it, just a good executive summary of what makes it distinct

2017-08-29 18:02:56 UTC  

Strong state.

2017-08-29 18:03:06 UTC  

IMO stalinism and the politics of the Independent State of Croatia were quite similar

2017-08-29 18:03:10 UTC  

Planned economy.

2017-08-29 18:03:21 UTC  

however stalin had some key disadvantages

2017-08-29 18:03:24 UTC  

Loyalty to the party and the General Secretary.

2017-08-29 18:03:42 UTC  

one of which was that he refused to acknowledge his racialist tendencies which would have made the russian people rally behind him

2017-08-29 18:03:44 UTC  

what sort of equality?

2017-08-29 18:03:51 UTC  

Each satellite country would control their own people.

2017-08-29 18:03:57 UTC  

How is that not just national socialism

2017-08-29 18:04:04 UTC  

what your'e describing is at a glance identical

2017-08-29 18:04:14 UTC  

except NS at least specifies who can join in quite clear terms

2017-08-29 18:04:22 UTC  

There is a reason why National Bolshevism is considered to be National Socialism with a Russian focus.

2017-08-29 18:05:38 UTC  

national socialism is just national socialism though, whether done by japanese or germans or hindus

2017-08-29 18:05:47 UTC  

so why does it need a new name when russians do it

2017-08-29 18:06:04 UTC  

is it to feel more distinct/special or what?

2017-08-29 18:06:19 UTC  

Because National Socialism destroyed our country during the Great Patriotic War.

2017-08-29 18:06:25 UTC  

I see