No fighter hierarchy

But other kinds of hierarchies

bummer

you're too civilized

nester doesn't cause problems

he doesn't need to know how to fight the way I need to know how to fight

Nester I got a religious question for you

Shoot

to the nearest hundred pages, roughly how long is the koran

600 hundred I think

okay

It's not as long as the bible

and it's about the dealings of the prophet muhammad, who muslims religiously follow, correct?

Just checked, 604 pages

It's partly about that

But many other things as well

That's alot of fire starter

it's significantly about that though, correct?

The hadeeth primarily deals with that

is that a true enough generality that I can hypothesize from it?

Significantly, yes.

Most of it doesn't talk about that.

okay. So assuming the koran is a 600 page document about muhammad, who was a true prophet, plus other useful doctrine revealed from the true god, let's go from there

It's not about muhammad.

But he's a recurring topic.

let's say, hypothetically speaking, that people following muhammad around all day had an additional 9,500 pages of his direct discourses documented by chronological order and indexed by topic, documented down to the very day and location where each sermon was given

The hadeeth documents what he said and what he did and what he approved and disapproved of.

That exists.

well hold on a sec

It's the hadeeth, not the quran.

let's say it's on top of what already exists

okay

so let's change the scenario

quran = core religious document, hadeeth = much longer work chronicling everything the true prophet said in great detail

There are many times more hadeeth than verses in the quran.

Quran, what god said. Hadeeth, what the prophet said and did.

Though the prophet is guided by god.

if I told you there were muslims who read the quran and believed it was a true book, and that muhammad was a true prophet, but regarding the hadeeth they acknowledged its authenticity yet paradoxically disregarded it as "apocrypha" and never referred to it and strongly discouraged its study, what would you make of that?

what would your conclusion be about this hypothetical muslim sect?

There are a lot of false hadeeths. Most hadeeths are false.

And the sources are the same, so it doesn't make sense to discount the hadeeth but not the quran.