Message from @Nester
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But yeah.
no fucking dominance hierarchy?
No fighter hierarchy
But other kinds of hierarchies
bummer
you're too civilized
nester doesn't cause problems
he doesn't need to know how to fight the way I need to know how to fight
Nester I got a religious question for you
Shoot
to the nearest hundred pages, roughly how long is the koran
600 hundred I think
okay
It's not as long as the bible
and it's about the dealings of the prophet muhammad, who muslims religiously follow, correct?
Just checked, 604 pages
It's partly about that
But many other things as well
That's alot of fire starter
it's significantly about that though, correct?
is that a true enough generality that I can hypothesize from it?
Significantly, yes.
Most of it doesn't talk about that.
okay. So assuming the koran is a 600 page document about muhammad, who was a true prophet, plus other useful doctrine revealed from the true god, let's go from there
It's not about muhammad.
But he's a recurring topic.
let's say, hypothetically speaking, that people following muhammad around all day had an additional 9,500 pages of his direct discourses documented by chronological order and indexed by topic, documented down to the very day and location where each sermon was given
The hadeeth documents what he said and what he did and what he approved and disapproved of.
That exists.
well hold on a sec
It's the hadeeth, not the quran.
let's say it's on top of what already exists
okay
so let's change the scenario
quran = core religious document, hadeeth = much longer work chronicling everything the true prophet said in great detail
There are many times more hadeeth than verses in the quran.
Quran, what god said. Hadeeth, what the prophet said and did.
Though the prophet is guided by god.
if I told you there were muslims who read the quran and believed it was a true book, and that muhammad was a true prophet, but regarding the hadeeth they acknowledged its authenticity yet paradoxically disregarded it as "apocrypha" and never referred to it and strongly discouraged its study, what would you make of that?
what would your conclusion be about this hypothetical muslim sect?