The world is in the state it's in largely due to intelligent people.

where would such a person rank in your schema

were he to exist?

He meant 150

105 is average

why don't we let him speak for himself nesquick

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Indeed

Fine I'm 160

I was being modest obviously

I am convinced that the test you took is not complete

I almost have scientific proof for it

IQ itself is not complete, but that test is not complete for IQ

A IQ test? I need to make one...

@Nester EITHER THAT, OR INSIGHT IS WHAT WE SEE WITH HIGH INTELLIGENCE

WHERE UNWARRANTED ARROGANCE IS WHAT OCCURS WITH MIDDLE-HIGH INTELLIGENCE

@Hagel which test

@Hagel WE SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER THE ECOSYSTEM OF INTELLIGENCES

FRIENDLY, WELL-MEANING RETARDS ARE THOSE WHO EMPOWER THE CLEVER BUT NOT INTELLIGENT (C.B.N.I.)

@diversity_is_racism I humbly challenge thee to a game of online chess. Battle of wits and winos. Actually chess is boring.

Is IQ so important?

It's a question of value. What faculties do we think are most important in humans?

The abilities?

Mental or otherwise

Practical and mental

It also depends on the education you have and other factors

Right. Really smart but can't make an omelette

@diversity_is_racism

Intelligence to me is your aptitude for abstract manipulation.

Insight is when the product of your manipulations tell you something new about reality. And so it has to be realistically principled and directed.

Isn't that reflection

If you're going to define cleverness as what I've defined intelligence as, I'm fine with that.

Abstraction is one thing. Reflection is the next, really.

And intelligence is a cleverness tending to produce insight.

Why is that reflection?

Insight could result from reflection.

Reflection is going over what had happened, or what you know.

But I don't believe intelligence and cleverness are different points in the same scale, @diversity_is_racism

Let's do a telethon then. We'll all call in with our insights. They'll be tallied up and the winner gets to donate the proceeds to an inner city abortion clinic of his choosing. And I guess crowned biggest brain.

Mental abilities matter

Intelligence = abilities of the mind