always has been

fringe politics attracts losers

@devolved Western European narrows it down more. You are right, it is better.
But still not good enough. Here is where we start to find SOME sense in using the term "Aryan", except that "Aryan" includes other ethnic groups, to the chagrin of many "white power" guys, and the NS dross back in the day.

"Western European is a geographic reference, but there are several aboriginal groups in Western Europe who do not really belong in this "Western European" group.

Like the real indigenous peoples of Ireland and Scottland (not the ones with the semitic-kind of mixture that @diversity_is_racism refers to as today's "Irish people")

or the ancient natives of Spain, and portions of southern France.

Pagans before pagans before pagans. The guys who were there since forever.

These guys do not belong to your "Western Civilization", yet they have always been in Western Europe.

WESTERN EUROPEAN = NORDIC-GERMANIC

then Nordic-Germanic is the proper term. And it does not include many U.K. caucasians.

This is interesting, at the end of the day: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34175224

@diversity_is_racism , interesting to note: THE INFAMOUS GUY is SARDINIAN. one of those ancient European groups.

AN INTERESTING GROUP FOR SURE

THEY SEEM CONNECTED

AGREED ALSO ON THE BASQUE CURIOSITY

@Pelagius ,

Some disagreements with original NS, and Hitlerist NS:

Socialism as an economic model

Arabs being more Aryan than Slavs

Fake Christianity for political reasons

Considering a return to the cult of Wotan "foolish"

A desire for one ethnicity to conquer the entire continent / world

A blurry, perhaps even underdeveloped sense of why the Germans are great, should propagate themselves, etc; A blurry sense of the reason why Alexander was different from other conquerors, the higher reason for the conquest beyond self preservation and propagation. Philosophy precedes politics, and the philosophy was, from the beginning, flawed at worst and fragmented and self contradictory between the factions at best

Best wishes,
v0ddy

Teutonic is a good word that used to be used to describe da white man

I think the true natives of western Europe belong in the western european group

The R1b people

And they are not nordic-germanic

Ok, @Hagel , these are my responses.
As per Adolf Hitler's views (his words) and organization: https://pastebin.com/xCUZY1mC

In regards to philosophy-ideology: National Socialism is not in the least a philosophy. Hitler was keen on making that clear. It was an ideology: a tool for purpose. Philosophy does not build reality, but moves and inspires in the long term in a different way. National Socialism has no philosophy in the proper sense.
A little thing that may be found if one actually takes the time what Hitler actually writes: He saw National Socialism as something to be surpassed, as a tool that was meant for Germans back then to address their contemporary predicament.

IF one reads *Mein Kampf* to the very end, and taking heed of his opinions, one finds these things stated very clearly.

Then why should I care about it?

Care about my answers or about National Socialism?

NS

1:

It was conceived as socialism, but never became this in practice

I would say, it is important to properly understand it to better understand what may work and why, and what not and why.
I believe it is a mistake to ditch everything that NS used or said or did just because it failed.
It's like that thing about not wearing pants because Hitler used to wear pants and he "failed".

3:

Indeed he used religion as a mere tool, which means that it's fake

It is misinformation, and I do not know why people here do it: NS lost the war because of big strategy decisions, not because NS had a socialist tinge, not because of Christianity, , etc.

He'd have used what ever religion was popular without believing in it

No, using something as a tool does not mean that that something is fake

a lot like Brett Stevens wants to do with Christianity

it may or may not be fake

We know he didn't like Christianity from his other statements

Sure.

yet claimed to be Christian, and in favour of Christianity

where does he claim to be Christian?

He claims Germans are Christian, and that Christianity is important to Germans.

A tool is a tool, when you see it from a high level.

some people cannot deal with it when it comes to religions