Message from @devolved

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2018-01-13 22:23:07 UTC  

It's not about "buying it". It's about studying, not believing. 😉

2018-01-13 22:23:40 UTC  

you will find that devolved is simply not very intelligent

2018-01-13 22:23:58 UTC  

he just kinda believes things, arbitrarily

2018-01-13 22:40:49 UTC  

What would a "matriarchy" entail

2018-01-13 22:42:00 UTC  

Women have their sphere of decision making

2018-01-13 22:42:16 UTC  

They are never truly powerless

2018-01-13 22:50:33 UTC  

negroes are not people

2018-01-13 22:50:52 UTC  

I'd say they are real life morlocks, but morlocks are useful labor at least

2018-01-13 22:51:18 UTC  

perhaps mexicans and chinese are morlocks

2018-01-13 22:54:08 UTC  

lol @ having english for hundreds of years and still speaking a slurred garble of english and boong

2018-01-13 22:59:34 UTC  

morlocks were more like blue collar people. the morlocks and eloi were the difference in evolution of the rich and poor in Verne's England.

2018-01-13 23:00:07 UTC  

future nigs would presumably be unrecognizably more devolved

2018-01-13 23:06:04 UTC  

like to abbo extent

2018-01-13 23:11:51 UTC  

haha sub-chimp

2018-01-14 01:33:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/401911790285619200/IMG_20180113_174503.jpg

2018-01-14 01:35:10 UTC  

White suicide

2018-01-14 01:37:04 UTC  

@devolved , saying that there is a "matriarchy" does not mean that women are powerless in all other forms. Just like men are not necessarily powerless in a "matriarchy", women are not necessarily powerless in a "patriarchy". They are not oppositions nor contraries, but simply generalizations from one particular distinction. The concepts of matriarchy and patriarchy are general enough, as well, that there are different organizations that could be called patriarchies and matriarchies.
So, what would it entail?
That the last word in leadership is held by women, in one way or another, in terms that in a patriarchy they are exclusively decided by men (that is, not just the household or the child-bearing, or cultural decisions, but perhaps even warfare). We may dislike this, or think that it is inefficient, or wrong or anything; but any of those valuations does not change the evidence and the theories based on that evidence. Crazier things have been heard of and are known to have happened throughout the history of humankind.

2018-01-14 01:41:43 UTC  

I don't think any successful society of the sort ever existed @Pelagius

2018-01-14 01:41:53 UTC  

It's against human nature and a myth

2018-01-14 01:42:56 UTC  

These writers want such societies to have existed to prove their pet theories

2018-01-14 01:43:10 UTC  

There's no evidence

2018-01-14 01:46:20 UTC  

Who said they were "successful" by the standards you choose? Perhaps they were not.
Perhaps they took over the success of an older form (which is what Evola thinks).
There is plenty of evidence, especially since there are still matriarchal groups in existence today in Asia and Africa.
They may not be "successful", as you define it, but they are there, surviving after hundreds of years at least.

2018-01-14 01:50:09 UTC  

What matriarchal groups

2018-01-14 01:51:43 UTC  

I'm saying there was no past age where Europe was full of matriarchal societies, which is what the myth is

2018-01-14 01:51:51 UTC  

Maybe a few backward tribes

2018-01-14 01:52:12 UTC  

Temporarily

2018-01-14 01:53:25 UTC  

Ok, I think this is more disputable and plausible: "there was no past age where Europe was full of matriarchal societies".

2018-01-14 01:58:12 UTC  

@devolved . How would you characterize the switch from monarchy to pseudo-egalitarian , pseudo-democratic societies, where men are lauded for being effeminate and women are increasingly given power beyond their traditional role? What is the end of that? Supposedly egalitarianism, but I am sure that many today think that ideally there should be rule by women.

2018-01-14 02:01:55 UTC  

Societal collapse

2018-01-14 02:05:37 UTC  

Almost all change is the collapse of one thing and the rise of another.
You are not saying anything if you say "societal collapse".
There are different ways in which your "societal collapse" can happen.

2018-01-14 02:07:29 UTC  

How do you characterize the one in which traditional rule by men gives way to a weakening of cultural preference for the manly warrior and the rise of power in women's hands beyond the norm?

2018-01-14 02:07:45 UTC  

We are certainly not in a "matriarchy".

2018-01-14 02:09:20 UTC  

But you can interpret some resemblance to it in these mechanics.

2018-01-14 02:20:09 UTC  

MATRIARCHANAL

2018-01-14 02:21:58 UTC  
2018-01-14 03:16:36 UTC  

@Pelagius bitch nigga you talk too much. You need to get to the point

2018-01-14 03:31:25 UTC  

Characterize the one in which traditional rule by men gives way to a weakening of cultural preference for suck my dick nerd

2018-01-14 05:45:59 UTC  

EXILARCH, such manly online talk. ZZZzzzzzz I'll call you megaman: virtual tool hero.