Message from @Exilarch
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people everywhere claiming to be a shitholer
its a shitholocaust
does anyone ever point out that niggers are only muslim because they hate white people and have kang theories that they were originally muslim? How is it any different from some Asatru idiot?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam#Beliefs_and_theology
p much the same thing
@devolved , Max Muller and James Frazer both support the idea that there were at least periods of "matriarchal" rule in ancient societies. Even Evola acknowledges and explores this. This is not really in dispute at all between experts of different fields. The only thing that differs in the opinions of philologists and other experts is whether that is the "original civilization" , how important it was, or its significance.
I don't buy it
@devolved, It's ok if you "don't buy it", but here are some things you may study if you like, or not. Use your head and resources, not your gut feeling.
I'm inclined to read and hear what they have researched and then consider it, rather than be afraid of the idea of a matriarchy, which seems to be heresy here, hahaha.
What may have tainted this idea was that Jewish intellectuals seeking a communistic path latched on to the related ideas in order to forward their own ideological beliefs. See Johann Jakob Bachofen (who wrote *Das Muterrecht*), who thinks that the matriarchy was the original form of civilization.
See again that Evola does not believe that, and gives his reasons for a more complete picture in *Rivolta contro il mondo moderno*, without dismissing the evidence there is for matriarchal stages of civilization.
It's not about "buying it". It's about studying, not believing. 😉
you will find that devolved is simply not very intelligent
he just kinda believes things, arbitrarily
What would a "matriarchy" entail
Women have their sphere of decision making
They are never truly powerless
negroes are not people
I'd say they are real life morlocks, but morlocks are useful labor at least
perhaps mexicans and chinese are morlocks
morlocks were more like blue collar people. the morlocks and eloi were the difference in evolution of the rich and poor in Verne's England.
future nigs would presumably be unrecognizably more devolved
like to abbo extent
haha sub-chimp
White suicide
@devolved , saying that there is a "matriarchy" does not mean that women are powerless in all other forms. Just like men are not necessarily powerless in a "matriarchy", women are not necessarily powerless in a "patriarchy". They are not oppositions nor contraries, but simply generalizations from one particular distinction. The concepts of matriarchy and patriarchy are general enough, as well, that there are different organizations that could be called patriarchies and matriarchies.
So, what would it entail?
That the last word in leadership is held by women, in one way or another, in terms that in a patriarchy they are exclusively decided by men (that is, not just the household or the child-bearing, or cultural decisions, but perhaps even warfare). We may dislike this, or think that it is inefficient, or wrong or anything; but any of those valuations does not change the evidence and the theories based on that evidence. Crazier things have been heard of and are known to have happened throughout the history of humankind.
I don't think any successful society of the sort ever existed @Pelagius
It's against human nature and a myth
These writers want such societies to have existed to prove their pet theories
There's no evidence
Who said they were "successful" by the standards you choose? Perhaps they were not.
Perhaps they took over the success of an older form (which is what Evola thinks).
There is plenty of evidence, especially since there are still matriarchal groups in existence today in Asia and Africa.
They may not be "successful", as you define it, but they are there, surviving after hundreds of years at least.
What matriarchal groups
I'm saying there was no past age where Europe was full of matriarchal societies, which is what the myth is
Maybe a few backward tribes
Temporarily
Ok, I think this is more disputable and plausible: "there was no past age where Europe was full of matriarchal societies".
@devolved . How would you characterize the switch from monarchy to pseudo-egalitarian , pseudo-democratic societies, where men are lauded for being effeminate and women are increasingly given power beyond their traditional role? What is the end of that? Supposedly egalitarianism, but I am sure that many today think that ideally there should be rule by women.
Societal collapse