Message from @༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻
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(AND PEOPLE CAN FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE.)
There are two types of idealism
Oh I'm not upset
Or frustrated even
Just trying to lay out some background and context before even getting to schopenhauer
Are platonic forms dualism then
kinda outta scope since that theory came outta a different culture with a different set of folk assumptions
I mean obviously if you've read WWR platonism is mentioned
Ur a folk
And kinda synthesized
I'm asking @diversity_is_racism
Since I never understood what he meant by dualism
Oh
@devolved NO, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE IN LINE WITH DUALISM
PLATONIC FORMS POSIT AN UNDERLYING ORDER TO THIS WORLD, NOT A SEPARATE WORLD
THIS GETS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE ARE POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL DIMENSIONS OR LAYERS TO THIS WORLD
BUT UNLIKE DUALISM
THE RULES ARE NOT DIFERENT
THE TWO WORLDS ARE DIRECTLY JOINED
how do you personally join them
Like there's basically zero cause and effect relationship between Fingerness and the five digits protruding from my palm.
Not finish with this thread but it is a good read.
https://twitter.com/Freyaslight/status/953437362499047424
God bless Texas
@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ ACTUALLY, THE CORE OF THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THERE IS
FINGERNESS IS NOT A MATERIAL
IT IS A PATTERN (OUR WORD FOR "FORM")
What's the causal link between the immaterial form and the material object
Yours that is
THE MATHEMATICS OF PATTERN
A FINGER IS A SHAPE DESIGNED FOR A SERIES OF FUNCTIONS
THIS IS DETERMINED BY INTERACTIONS BETWEEN ITS PARTS AND THE OBJECTS ON WHICH IT ACTS
THUS ITS ESSENCE IS STRUCTURAL, OR INFORMATIONAL, NOT MATERIAL, OR RELATED TO WHAT IT IS MADE OF
FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN MAKE REASONABLY ACCURATE ROBOTIC FINGERS
THEY EXHIBIT FINGERNESS
PHILOSOPHERS TEND TO USE THE CHAIR AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT IS THE SIMPLEST POSSIBLE CHOICE
ANYTHING WITH SUPPORT PLUS A BACK IS A CHAIR
NAIL A BOARD TO A STUMP AND IT WORKS JUST AS WELL
PLATO POSITS AN INFORMATIONAL CAUSE/EFFECT RELATIONSHIP
So the pattern exists prior right
THAT IS: THE DEMANDS OF THE SITUATION DETERMINE WHAT FILLS IT